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Platform-Independent Java <-> C# Interoperability

We want to use existing C# sources within our Java project. So far, this would not be a great problem since using e.g. Java Native Interface (JNI) is quite straight forward.
The problem is that the software shall also run on non-windows OS. So, we can compile the C# sources with Mono in order to make them executable on e.g. Linux. But how about the integration within Java? JNI or any COM-based solutions for C# <-> Java interoperability are OS-dependent and only work e.g. on Windows.
One possible solution would be the implementation of webservices. Has anybody another idea of how to solve this problem? I would be very thankful for alternative suggestions!
Thanks very much!
Regards

This is maybe not an "answer" as such, more a bit of discussion of how I viewed a similar (I think) situation.
I had a major investment in a C#/.Net-based client-server style system. So when I decided that I also wanted to support an Android "client" app I looked into various options. To me the most important factor was to maintain my C# classes as the defining classes for the object interchange between the existing system and the to-be-written Java Android app.
What I eventually settled on, and tweaked to my liking, was a system where Google Protocol Buffers is the interchange media. (If you're not familiar with them they are a sort of JSON-like interchange format.)
https://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/
At the .Net end I use ProtoBuf-Net, written by Marc Gravell (he works here at SO, I believe). It includes the ability to take .Net objects and generate .proto files, the defining file for Protocol Buffers.
https://code.google.com/p/protobuf-net/
At the Android end I use ProtoStuff, written by David Yu. There is a part of his code that takes a .proto file and generates the corresponding Java classes.
https://code.google.com/p/protostuff/
One problem I encountered was that this didn't work well for my .Net classes that are derived classes, which was most of them. I created a workaround that is described in my comment to the answer here:
How to get protobuf-net to flatten and unflatten inherited classes in .Net?
This is now working to my satisfaction.
Note that I haven't talked at all about how the Android app connects to the Windows-based system and how the communications is performed. That was secondary for me - my primary consideration was making the C# class definitions the definitive definitions and having Java classes created from them automatically, and then the object-to-object interchange. (In the event I'm using a home-made TCP/IP communications link, but the actual communications could be anything, probably also web services.)
Hope this helps.

So I did a lot of research on this topic and want to share my findings with you:
One (from a technical point very attractive) option is to use commercial bridges between Java and .Net. For sure, the most popular products are JNBridge and Javonet. Both products seem to be quite easy-to-use, have good support and seem to be very sophisticated. Especially JNBridge already supports bridging between Java and Mono too, which allows the portation to also non-Windows OS, which is one of our main requirements as stated above. Javonet also wants to integrate Mono and is going to release this feature soon. However, both solutions are commercial and one needs to weigh their features against the respective costs. Nevertheless, from a pure technical point of view, they look great and also state to enable very fast communication between Java and .Net (faster than with web services).
Another option is to connect Java and .NET via COM. Since COM is generelly defined platform-independently, this could work on multiple OS. There are lots of open source projects that could be used for such an implementation, such as EZJCOM, J-Interop, JACOB or JCOM. The main restriction (expecially for our project) is that Mono only supports COM-interoperability under Windows (yet). So, this is not really an option for us. But if you want to create Java-.NET interoperability on Windows only, this is a good way.
The straighforward way of integrating Java and C# is to use Java Native Interface (JNI). You can also find manifold implementations that make JNI more easy to use, the most popular one is probably jni4net which seems to be a very active and frequently used project. But there are also others with specific pros and cons, such as Caffeine, Espresso or csjni. Finally, JNI is not 100% platform independet. It is applicable on different platforms, but you have to generate platform-specific code which makes it clearly less usable for our purposes. If you limit your application to Windows, jni4net seems to be a very good choice.
The third option could be to run both the Java and the .Net part within a Common Language Runtime. Ikvm.net is one possible and very popular solution therefore (as mentioned above by Samuel Audet). The drawback of this option is the loss of features and efficiency of the JDK.
The last and surely most generic alternative is to set up webservices between the Java and the .Net world. For this solution, one needs to find appropriate ways for serializing/deserializing objects from/to Java and .Net. There are manifold possible solutions for that available. RenniePet mentioned a sophisticated solution based on Protocol Buffers. Others exist as well such as http://java-cs-bridge.sourceforge.net/. This option might have a potential drawback when considering communication runtime, but may be the way to go for us.
Hope this may help anyone in the future that is confronted with the same problem.

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I have been a C++ developer for about 10 years. I need to pick up Java just for Hadoop. I doubt I will be doing any thing else in Java. So, I would like a list of things I would need to pick up. Of course, I would need to learn the core language, but what else?
I did Google around for this and this could be seen as a possible duplicate of "I want to learn Java. Show me how?" but it's not. Java is a huge programming language with lots, of libraries and what I need to learn will depend largely on what I am using Hadoop for. But I suppose it is possible to say something like don't bother learning this. This will be quite useful too.

In my day job, I've just spent some time helping a C++ person to pick up enough Java to use some Java libraries via JNI (Java Native Interface) and then shared memory into their primarily C++ application. Here are some of the key things I noticed:
You cannot manage for anything beyond a toy project without an IDE. The very first thing you should do is download a popular Java IDE (Eclipse is a fine choice, but there are also alternatives including Netbeans and IntelliJ). Do not be tempted to try and manage with vi / emacs and javac / make. You will be living in a cave and not realising it. Once you're up to speed with even basic IDE functions you will be literally dozens of times more poductive than without an IDE.
Learn how to layout a simple project structure and packages. There will be simple walkthroughs of how to do this on the Eclipse site or elsewhere. Never put anything into the default package.
Java has a type system whereby the reference and primitive types are relatively separate for historic / performance reasons.
Java's generics are not the same as C++ templates. Read up on "type erasure".
You may wish to understand how Java's GC works. Just google "mark and sweep" - at first, you can just settle for the naivest mental model and then learn the details of how a modern production GC would do it later.
The core of the Collections API should be learned without delay. Map / HashMap, List / ArrayList & LinkedList and Set should be enough to get going.
Learn modern Java concurrency. Thread is an assembly-language level primitive compared to some of the cool stuff in java.util.concurrent. Learn ConcurrentHashMap, Atomic*, Lock, Condition, CountDownLatch, BlockingQueue and the threadpools from Executors. Good books here are those by Brian Goetz and Doug Lea.
As soon as you want to use 3rd party libraries, you'll need to learn how the classpath works. It's not rocket science, but it is a bit verbose.
If you're a low-level C++ guy, then you may find some of this interesting also:
Java has virtual dispatch by default. The keyword static on a Java method is used to indicate a class method. private Java methods use invokespecial dispatch, which is a dispatch onto the exact type in use.
On an Oracle VM at least, objects comprise two machine words of header (the mark word and the class word). The mark word is a bunch of flags the VM uses - notably for thread synchronization. The class word you can think of as a pointer to the VM's representation of the Class object (which is where the vtables for methods live). Following the class word are the member fields of the instance of the object.
Java .class files are an intermediate language, and not really that similar to x86 object code. In particular there are lots more useful tools for .class files (including the javap disassembler which ships with the JVM)
The Java equivalent of the symbol table is called the Constant Pool. It's typed and it has a lot of information in it - arguably more than the x86 object code equivalent.
Java virtual method dispatch consists of looking up the correct method to be called in the Constant Pool and then converting that to an offset into a vtable. Then walking up the class hierarchy until a not-null value is found at that vtable offset.
Java starts off interpreted and then goes compiled (for Oracle and some other VMs anyway). The switch to compiled mode is done method-by-method on a as-need basis. When benchmarking and perf tuning you need to make sure that you've warmed the system up before you start, and that you should typically profile at the method level to start with. The optimizations that are made can be quite aggressive / optimistic (with a check and a fallback if the assumptions are violated) - so perf tuning is a bit of an art.
Hopefully there's some useful stuff in there to be going on with - please comment / ask followup questions.

Learning "just enough" Java is learning Java. Either you learn all the core principles and language design decisions, or you suffer along making easily avoidable mistakes. Considering that you already know how to program, a lot of the information can be skimmed (with an eye for where it differs from other languages you are intimately familiar).
so you need to learn:
How to get started
The language itself
The core, essential classes
The major Collections
And if you don't have a build framework in place, how to package your compiled code.
Beyond that, nearly every other item you might need to learn depends heavily on what you intend to do. Don't discount the on-line tutorials from Oracle/Sun, they are quite good (compared to other online tutorials).

Hadoop can use C++ : WordCount example in C++

You can't really use Java without knowing these packages in the standard API:
java.lang
java.util
java.io
And, to a lesser degree:
java.text
java.math
java.net
java.lang.reflect
java.util.concurrent
They contain a lot of classes you'll need to use constantly for pretty much any application, and it's a good idea to look through them until you know which classes they contain and what those are good for, lest you end up reinventing wheels.

Take it easy, learning Java could be
pleasant and fast if you already know
C++
Buy these two books:
The JavaTM Programming Language, (4th Edition) Ken Arnold, James
Gosling, Davis Holmes
Effective Java (2nd Edition), Joshua Bosh
You will soon be mastering Java, You will not regret. Good Luck.

Since C++ and Java share common roots, the core language shouldn't give you too much trouble. You will need to become familar with the java SDK, particularly java.lang and the Collections framework (java.util.)
But perhaps learning java is overkill if you don't see yourself using it elsewhere. Hadoop also has bindings to Python - perhaps learning python would be a better alternative? See Java vs Python on Hadoop.

Here is the quickstart for all you will need
I suggest Eclipse (java) to start working, see this for that

Maybe you don't even need to know Java to use Hadoop.
Pig is far enough from simple to advanced usage of Hadoop.

I don't know how familiar are you with other higher level programming languages. Garbage collection is an important function in Java. It would be important to read a bit about the GC in your VM of choice.
Besides the obvious packages, check out the java.util packages for the collection framework. You might want to check out the source of some classes. I suggest HashMap to get the idea of the computing/memory cost of these operations.
Java likes to use streams instead of buffers when processing large amounts of data. That may take some time getting used to.
Java has no unsigned types. Depending on the packets of data you need to process at once you can either use larger variables and streight arythetics (if we're talking about relatively small packets), or you have to (b[i] & 0xff) every time you read for example unsigned bytes. Also note that Java uses network byte order (msbf) when serializing multibyte numbers.
The most beloved design patterns by the API are Singleton, Decorator and Factory. Check the source of JFC itself for best practices, how these patterns are achieved in the language.
... and you can still post more concrete questions on SO :)

Answer 1 :
It is very desirable to know Java. Hadoop is written in Java. Its popular Sequence File format is dependent on Java.
Even if you use Hive or Pig, you'll probably need to write your own UDF someday. Some people still try to write them in other languages, but I guess that Java has more robust and primary support for them.
Most Hadoop tools are not mature enough (like Sqoop, HCatalog and so on), so you'll see many Java error stack traces and probably you'll want to hack the source code someday
Answer 2
It is not required for you to know Java.
As the others said, it would be very helpful depending on how complex your processing may be. However, there is an incredible amount you can do with just Pig and say Hive.
I would agree that it is fairly likely you will eventually need to write a user defined function (UDF), however, I've written those in Python, and it is very easy to write UDFs in Python.
Granted, if you have very stringent performance requirements, then a Java based MapReduce program would be the way to go. However, great advancements in performance are being made all of the time in both Pig and Hive.
So, the short answer to your question is, "No", it is not required for you to know Java in order to perform Hadoop development.
Source :
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Is-it-must-Hadoop-Developer-988957.S.141072851

Most of the stuff should be pretty familiar to you. I'd just download eclipse and google a tutorial site. Familiarize yourself with classloading, keywords. One tricky thing a lot of C++ guys run into is how to run a java app so that it finds its library classes(sort of analogous to dynamic linking). Learn the difference between the JRE and JDK. If you can get a few hello world type apps working you ought to be able to get a start on hadoop if you follow the tutorials.

You dont need to learn java to use hadoop.
You need to know linux to installand configure hadoop
then you can write your map reduce jobs using the stream line api on any language which understand standard input/output
further you can do more complex map reduce using other libraries like hive etc
even other components of hadoop like hbase/ cassandra also has clients on most of the languages

Java NIO, to use or not to use a framework?

I'm developing a Java Based server, with NIO multiplex and I started to see a lot of frameworks... I don't understand if these frameworks makes the life easier only or has also an increment of performance ( for example netty )

No framework can increase performance of what's underneath it. In the case of NIO I've come around to the view that it already is a framework itself. I've reviewed a couple of NIO frameworks such as Mina, and indeed wrote one myself, but my own conclusion is that this is largely wasted effort, that ultimately gets in the way one way or another. All you need is a well-written select loop and the appropriate data structures.

I think the core point is that they make life easier/get you productive faster. They may be more or less performant compared to each other, or to your own code (no reason to think that if you coded it from scratch you would get better performance the first try - of course ultimately you own it so you can optimize it to death if you want and have the time).
Ultimately they are all using the Java NIO framework and classes, and the only way to outperform those is to do your own JNI - assuming you succeeded - it is hard stuff, really a specialty of its own within programming.

It depends on what you're trying to do. NIO frameworks are useful because they provide you an abstraction of NIO core action. Although, they force you to use several design patterns you may not be comfortable with.
If you think you adapt yourself to those design patterns you should probably use a framework. It will have less bugs, you will have less work to do and ultimately you won't see where all of the action happens. You just have to focus on what you are trying to achieve.
It has some additional overhead in comparison to a "domestic" solution but it is negligible.

It really depends on your level of knowledge with the java.nio API. If you're not sure on how things work then you should probably use a 3rd party API. If you know how things work and are capable of writing code without a 3rd party API then you should definitely use your own code without any strings attached. You can achieve better performance without extra things (3rd party API) going on.
I like to live by the KISS principle.

What's the best language/platform for SOA on Linux in a post-Java world?

I need to choose a language/platform for the new development of a series of services in a SOA. I'm looking into Scala and Clojure but don't think the community and products are mature enough for a real-world enterprise product yet.
Update/Clarifications:
Of course we can use many languages/platforms for SOA but some language/platforms are easier and more suited for an SOA. IMO the best ones for SOA should allow interface programming (to ease definition of contracts), should have options for hosting the services (like Felix for Java or WCF in .NET) and scale well (see Twitter issues with RoR).
Java has always been the favourite in the enterprise market. However, many developers are looking into dynamic languages as well as talking about stagnation of Java after v6. As a result many new post Java languages have arrived: Scala, Clojure and Groovy to name a few that still run on JVM but are not Java.
I hope these clarify the question.

Depends what you mean by "mature enough for a real-world enterprise product", and your relative level of tolerance for living on the cutting edge.
For example, I'm currently building a "real-world enterprise product" in Clojure (I'd have been equally happy with Scala, it was only that Clojure fitted my needs slightly better from the concurrency and meta-programming perspective).
I'm very happy with my decision.
Some quick perspectives if you are considering this "post-Java" path:
The communities are great and supportive, but you'll still have to solve problems yourself, if only because nobody else has run into the same problem yet. None of these are likely to be insurmountable, but it does present a bit of extra risk to delivery schedules.
Both Scala and Clojure can be very productive (in terms of value delivered to customers per hour coding), but you can equally well write bad and unmaintainable code in any langauge. Java pretty much forces you to write things in a standardised, somewhat verbose but syntactically simple and understandable way. With Scala and Clojure you get a whole new arsenal of crazy ways to hit your target or shoot yourself in the foot. Is your team going to be able to make the best use of Scala/Clojure advantages?
It's harder (though by no means impossible) to bring skilled people on board with existing Clojure/Scala skills. On the flipside, the people who do have these skills (or are keen to acquire them) are likely to be among the more talented / motivated developers so the search may still be productive.
Be prepared to make tough decisions regarding whether to target language/library features that are "just round the corner". For example, do you wait for the enhanced primitive support coming in Clojure 1.3? Or make do with the perfectly adequate but slower boxed primitive functions in Clojure 1.2?
A great benefit of being on the JVM is that you can still take full advantage of the Java ecosystem without being tied to Java as a language. Don't underestimate how useful this is: for example, I use a number of extremely well tested, mature Java libraries (e.g. Netty) pretty much transparently in my Clojure application. This significantly reduces your risk and the amount of new development that you need to do.

At the moment (having just completed a services/integration project ) Jersey on top of Spring are right up there on my favourites list for web services.
I can't offer any suggestions for a SOA framework, last time I was involved in that type of thing we user Oracle BPEL Process Manager and I have mixed feelings about it. We weren't using REST then either and I'm not sure how well the Oracle software works with it.

For me python seems the easiest way to do some SOA and have interoperability with Windows computers. I don't have frameworks name but there is a lot of them in SOAP, REST, RPC...

Advantages of Java over Ruby/JRuby

I am learning Java.
I have learned and used Ruby. The Ruby books always tell the advantages of Ruby over Java. But there must be some advantages, that's why lots of people (especially companies) use Java and not Ruby.
Please tell the absolute(not philosophical!) advantages of Java over Ruby.

Many more developers experienced with
Java than with Ruby.
Many existing libraries in Java (That
helps JRuby too).
Static typechecking (can be seen as
advantage and as disadvantage).
Existing codebase that has to be
maintained.
Good tool-support.
More and deeper documentations and
tutorials.
More experiences with good practices
and pitfalls.
More commercial support. That's
interesting for companies.
Many of these advantages are the result, that the Java-ecosystem is more matured, than that around Ruby. Many of these points are subjective, like static vs. dynamic typing.

I don't know Ruby very well, but I can guess the following points:
Java has more documentation (books, blogs, tutorial, etc.); overall documentation quality is very good
Java has more tools (IDEs, build tools, compilers, etc.)
Java has better refactoring capabilities (due to the static type system, I guess)
Java has more widespread adoption than Ruby
Java has a well-specified memory model
As far as I know, Java has better support for threading and unicode (JRuby may help here)
Java's overall performance is quite good as of late (due to hotspot, G1 new garbage collector, etc.)
Nowadays, Java has very attractive and cheap server hosting: appengine

Please tell the absolute … advantages of Java over Ruby
Programmers should rarely deal in absolutes.
I'll dare it, and say that as a rule, static typing (Java) is an advantage over dynamic typing (Ruby) because it helps recognize errors much quicker, and without the need to potentially difficult unit tests1).
Harnessed intelligently, a strong type system with static type checking can be a real time-saver.
1) I do not oppose unit testing! But good unit testing is hard and the compiler can be a great help at reducing the sheer number of necessary test cases.

Reason #1. There's a lot of legacy Java code out there. Ruby is new, there's not so many programmers who know it and even fewer who are good at it. Similarly, there is a lot more library code available for Java than Ruby.
So there may be Technical reasons Ruby is better than Java, but if you're asking for Business reasons, Java still beats it.

The Java Virtual Machine, which has had over a decade of improvements including:
just in time compilation in the HotSpot compiler (JIT - compiling byte code to native code)
a plethora of garbage collection algorithms and tuning parameters
runtime console support for profiling, management etc. of your application (JConsole, JVisualVM etc)

I like this Comparison(Found on link Given by Markus!Thanks!)... Thanks to all... i am also expecting some more discrete advantages
And its Great!!

The language.
My opinion is that the particular properties of the Java language itself lead us to the powerful capabilities of the IDEs and tools. These capabilities are especially valuable when you have to deal with very large code-base.
If I try to enumerate these properties it would be:
of course strong static typing
the grammar of language is a LALR(1) grammar - so it is easy to build a parser
fully qualified names (packages)
What we've got in the IDE so far, for example Eclipse:
great capabilities of exploring very large code bases. You can unambiguously find all references, call hierarhy, usages of classes or public and protected members - it is very valuable when you studying the code of the project or going to change something.
very helpful code editor. I noticed that when I writing code in the Eclipse's java editor I'm actually typing by hand only names of calsses or methods and then I press Ctrl+1 and editor generates a lot of things for me. And especially good that eclipse encourage you to write the usage of piece of code first and even before the code is aclually writen. So you do the method call before you create the method and then editor generates the method stub for you. Or you add extra arguments to the method or constructor in the place when you're invoking it - and editor change the signature for you. And enev more complicated things - you pass some object to the method that accept some interface - and if the object's class do not implement this interface - editor can do it for you... and so on. There's a lot of intresting things.
There is a LOT of tools for Java. As an example of a one great tool I want to mention Maven. Actually, my opinion is that the code reuse is really possible only when we have such a tool like Maven. The infrastructure built around it and integration with IDE make feasible very intresting thinsg. Example: I have m2eclipse plugin installed. I have new empty project in the Eclipse. I know that there is a class that I need to use (reuse actually) somewhere in the repositories, let say StringUtils for example. I write in my code 'StringUtils', Eclipse's editor tell me that there is no such class in the project and underlines it with red. I press Ctrl+1 and see that there is an ability to search this class in the public repository (actually in the index, not the repository itself). Some libs were found, I choose one of them at particular version and the tool downloads the jar, configures my project's calsspath and I alredy got all that I need.
So it's all about programmer's productivity.
The JVM.
My opinion is that the JVM (Sun's HotSpot particularly) is a one of the most intresting pieces of software nowadays. Of course the key point here is a performance. But current implementation of HotSpot JVM explores very cutting edge ways to achieve such really great performance. It explores all possible advantages of just-in-time compiling over static, collects statistics of the usage of code before JIT-compile it, optimise when it possible virtual calls, can inline a lot more things that static compiler can, and so on. And the great thing here that all this stuff is in the JVM, but not in the language itself (as contrary with C# as example). Actually, if you're just learning the Java language, I strongly encourage you to learn the details of modern implementations of JVM, so you know what is really hurt performance and what isn't, and do not put unnecessary optimizations in the Java code, and do not afraid to use all possibilities of the language.
So...
it's all about IDEs and tools actually, but by some reason we have them for Java not for any other language or platform (.NET of course is a great competitor in the Windows world).

This has probably been beaten to death, but my personal opinion is that Ruby excels at quickly created web apps (and frameworks) that are easy to learn, beautiful to read, and are more than fast enough for web apps.
Where Java is better suited for raw muscle and speed.
For example, I wrote a Ruby program to convert a 192 MB text file to a MongoDB collection. Ruby took hours to run. And the Ruby code was as simple/optimized as you could get (1.9.2).
I re-wrote it in Java and it runs in 4 minutes. Yes. Hours to 4 minutes. So take that for what it's worth.

Network effect. Java has the advantage of more people using Java. Who themselves use Java because more people use Java.

If you have to build a big software, you'll need to collaborate. By having a lot of programmers out there, you are sure that there will be someone that can be asked to maintain your software even if the original developers have left the company.
Static type checking and good Java IDE offer no magic and this is good for a lot of maintainer instead of Ruby.

It is not sufficient to indicate that java is statically typed and ruby is dynamically typed.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does this cover the fact that in ruby you can add to and even
change the program (class definitions, method definitions etc) at runtime? AFAIK you can have dynamically typed languages that are not "dynamic" (can be changed at runtime).
Because in Ruby you can change the program at runtime you don't know until you've actually run the program how it is going to behave, and even then you don't know if it will behave the same next time because your code may have been changed by some other code that called the code you're writing and testing.
This predictability is, depending on the context, the advantage of Java - one of the contexts where this is an advantage is when you have a lot of developers of varying skill levels working on a fairly large enterprise application.

IMHO, what one person considers an advantage might be a disadvantage for someone else. Some people prefer static typing while others like dynamic. It is quite subjective and depends largely upon the job and the person doing it.
I would say just learn Java and decide for yourself what its strong points are. Knowing both languages yourself beats any comparisons/advice some other person can give. And its usually a good thing to know another language, so you're not wasting your time.

Negatives for Java:
There is a lot of duplication in libraries and frameworks available for Java.
Java developers/communities tend to create over complicated solutions to simple problems.
There is a lot more legacy in Java to maintain.
Too much pandering to business users has introduced cruft that makes middle managers feel better. In other words, some philosophies in Java are more concerned with BS instead of getting the job done. This is why companies like to use Java.
You'll generally need to write more code in Java than Ruby.
It takes a lot more configuring/installing/setup to get a fully working Java development environment over Ruby.
Positives for Java:
Speed.
Documentation.
Lower level language than Ruby, which could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your needs.
None of my points are very scientific, but I think the differences in philosophy and personalities behind Java and Ruby is what makes them very different to each other.

Better performances

There are more choices:
Developers - lots to hire
Libraries - lots of wheels already invented.
IDE's - lots of development environments to choose from. Not only just vi/emacs + a shell.
Runtimes - if you for some reason do not like the JVM you use on the system, you can either download or buy another implementation and it will most likely Just Work. How many Ruby implementations are there?
Please note that this has nothing to do with the LANGUAGES as such :)

Reading up on this : Is Ruby as cross-platform as Java? made me realize at least one factual advantage of java over ruby:
The J2ME-compatible subest of java is more portable than ruby
as long as JRuby won't run on J2ME which may be forever