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Is Java really that cross platform?

Nowadays, I've started hearing a lot about Java. I know that its because its meant to be cross platform. But is it really?
How much can we trust the client to have JVM installed? I've quite a few books on Java in my home and really wish to read them. But every time the same question strikes me. Will the apps which I develop with Java run on most of the machines? Isn't that bad?
One way out is to use some compilers to compile Java code to native machine code. But this makes me feel, "Why use Java then?"
So, Is it worth to learn Java for cross platform? Any ideas regarding the percentage of people having JVM installed?

I would like to correct you, People dont require jre installed they require jvm.
Since Java only relies on JVM, it is platform independent (if the platform has JVM installed).
But the main thing is, That the programmer do not have to know specific knowledge of the Platform and program his application keeping one specific platform in mind. He just has to write code generate byteCode and rest part is handled by JVM, to run it on any other platform.
If you compare java with other language you will get the exact difference like in In c/c++ the source code(c program file) after the compilation using a compiler is directly converted to native machine code(which is understandable to particular machine on which u compiling the code). And hence the compiled code of c/c++ can not run on different OS.

Nowadays, I've started hearing a lot about Java. I know that its because its meant to be cross platform. But is it really?
Yes, Java is cross-platform - or, more accurately, portable. It runs on the most used architectures and platforms, often without modification, which makes it one of the most portable languages out there. (But keep in mind that you can write unportable code in almost any language and Java is no exception.)
How much can we trust the client to have JRE installed?
We can't, but that's almost never problem.
Most languages need runtimes in order to operate. The C language (and some of its derivatives, like C++) get away with the fact that the C runtime is often already installed in the OS.
For most other languages, we trust the end user to be at least willing (not even necessarily able) to install the required runtime in order to run our (and others') software. Most software these days (and this often includes C++ software) installs its required dependencies automatically in the installation script. If this isn't desirable for any reason, an alternative is to bundle (statically link) the runtime with the program when deploying it.
One way out is to use some compilers to compile Java code to native machine code. But this makes me feel, "Why use Java then?"
Not all languages that compile to native code are the same. They have different features, different tools, different libraries available, and so on.
In any case, make sure you're not confusing native compilation with static linking of any dependencies (runtime or libraries).
Even, tell me how much percent people have a JRE installed.
About 97% of enterprise computers and 89% of desktops in the USA are estimated to run Java.

The client needs a JVM, not a JRE. They will run on almost all machines. I don't have a percentage but considering that pretty much every major OS has a JVM available to them, I would say around 95% (underestimation in my opinion). Java definitely does not have a limited audience so that shouldn't stop you from using Java.
Updated in light of Andreas' comment. I was under the impression that a lot of machines came pre-installed with Java. However, the JVM can be easily downloaded so you still don't have to worry too much about whether you're going to miss out on a large audience.

I think you mixed two different concepts:
Cross-platform: A program is considered to be cross-platform if it can run on different platforms without a need to recompile it.
Q: Is Java cross-platform?
A: Of course it is.
Native app: A program that runs on the targeted platform without a need to install, download any other software. Usually the program is compiled into a machine binary. However, it may in some definitions include programs/scripts that are not machine binaries, but the target it platform is guaranteed to run them with its built-in library/software.
Q: Can Java run on any platform without JVM?
A: No. JVM is not shipped with any platform that I'm aware of, so it needs to be downloaded and installed before any Java program can run.
One way out is to use some compilers to compile Java code to native machine code. But this makes me feel, "Why use Java then?"
It all depends on what you want to achieve. If you want to create native apps, drivers, etc, then Java is definitely the wrong tool. But if you want to create an app that can run on all platform without having to recompile it and create a version for each platform, then Java can be a good option.
So, Is it worth to learn Java for cross platform? Any ideas regarding the percentage of people having JVM installed?
Again, it really depends on what you want to achieve. Java is a good option for creating cross-platform apps and it is worth learning. However, there are other options that you may want to look into, compare, and decide which one to learn. C# is a great language, and just recently, Microsoft announced its plans to make it truly cross-platform, so it is another good option.
Most PCs have JVM installed. Theodoros Chatzigiannakis provided some statistics in his answer. But you shouldn't be too worried about the numbers. Those few who don't have JVM installed, will be willing to download and install it if they like your app.
Note: In the past, you could run apps written in C# on platforms other than Windows, but you needed a .Net Framework equivalent (e.g. Mono). With Microsoft recent announcement, we should be able to use Microsoft .Net Framework itself on other platforms. We will see how this will turn out.

Java to EXE good or bad idea?

I have been wondering for a long time about converting Java projects to EXE.
The advantages relies in the faster deployment on Windows where the user simply double clicks the EXE and the application is launched where is with Java, he has to run certain commands.
But EXE is really not what the Java was intended for which is portability.
So what do you think, Java to EXE good or bad idea?
I found some interesting article here.
Update
Wow, so may contradicting views so far. I would like you guys to add the pros and cons of the JAVA to EXE.

Since my expertise is with Java Web Start, which is for launching desktop apps. with a GUI, please consider my advice to be targeted mostly at those types of apps.
Other people have commented on the OS specific nature of an EXE. I always have to wonder why people choose Java to develop Windows specific desktop apps., since the Visual Studio software for Windows would probably make both GUI development (no x-plat Java layouts to bend your head around) and deployment (just guessing it can produce an EXE) easier.
OTOH only you can say what is the best development tool/language for this use-case.
As to the potential disadvantages of creating an EXE, I note at the JavaFAQ on EXEs.
There are a number of good reasons not to package your application in an executable. Daniel Sjöblom notes:
It will probably not be any faster. Modern virtual machines don't interpret bytecodes, they actually employ a JIT compiler to produce native, compiled code. Check Sun's site for further information on JIT compilers.
Static compilation increases the size of your application multifold, since all of the libraries you are using need to be linked into the application.
You lose 'free' upgrades to your program. Anytime your user downloads a new faster virtual machine, your app gets a speed boost. If you are using an exe, you will not get this benefit.
Jon A. Cruz details some of the extra steps in the development process required to create an exe. He points out that developers making native exe's need to:
Validate the latest versions of the compilation product from the vendor. If critical bugs are found, it can't be used to build a shipping product until those are addressed. Work that needs to be done each time a revision comes out from the vendor.
Submit the software through a QA cycle. Once engineering thinks things are done, they need to be verified. So every shipping version and update of a product needs to go through complete testing cycles.
Further, since native compilation is per target platform, the QA cycle needs to be done completely for each target platform, which multiplies effort required.
Shelf space. Maybe not a big deal nowadays, but could be.
Then one needs to get all customers to upgrade to the proper version. Either have free updates (in which case the business needs to absorb the cost of producing updates) or alternatively needs to handle clients not all updating.
Jon notes futher: When you ship standard Java bytecodes, VM problems are the responsibility of the platform or VM vendor. However, when you ship compiled binaries, they become your responsibility (even if they're actually bugs in the vendor's compilation product).
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Of course, my first choice for deploying Java rich client apps. is using Java Web Start. Putting some of the benefits/features of web-start in point form:
JWS provides many appealing features including, but not limited to:
splash screens
desktop integration
file associations
automatic update (including lazy downloads and programmatic control of updates)
partitioning of natives & other resource downloads by platform, architecture or Java version,
configuration of run-time environment (minimum J2SE version, run-time options, RAM etc.)
easy management of common resources using extensions
..
I decided to highlight auto-update since with the gradual shift from apps. delivered on disk to apps. delivered over a network, auto-update is becoming more common. JWS still provides the best update experience (very configurable, mostly transparent to the user) I've seen.
And of course, JWS works on OS' for desktop PCs for which Java is available.
Update
..does Java web apps require internet connection?
(Note that name is 'Java Web Start'.)
Sure it does. At least for the initial installation. Update checks can be specified to continue to launch the previously installed version of the app. if the user is not currently connected.
But then, (in my estimation) there are more machines (such as Netbooks) with no CD/DVD drive, than there are without internet connections. If you want to sell to the larger market, look to the network to deliver the app.

It depends on your needs. We had written a little barcode client scanner app here for our customer. They run it on two Windows-PCs. They are happy having their well-known exe-files. We coded it in Java and created an EXE-file for them.
Both parties are happy with it - so why not doing it?
When there are good reasons for it and nothing against it except dogmatism then it is ok in my opinion.

I am the author of the article you linked to - glad you've found it interesting!
As my article states, and as others have already pointed out in their answers, there are multiple ways to simplify deployment of Java apps - JNLP, EXE wrappers, installers bundling a private JRE, and so on. But true native compilation is the only option that also provides protection against Java decompilers - you simply do not ship the bytecodes.
Of course, that does not make reverse engineering of and tampering with your code impossible, just much more costly in terms of required skillset and time.
As far as application performance is concerned, native compilation can make a big difference if you target embedded systems. This also applies to memory and disk footprint, albeit to a smaller extent. On the desktop you would typically get better startup, but in most other scenarios and aspects the results would depend on your app.

If it has a good reason why not? Even Eclipse has an EXE on windows and (and platform dependent binaries for linux, mac, etc) Of course you loose portability but if that is not important then go ahead.
UPDATE
The question is what do you want to achieve by creating an exe :
Convenience : users on windows prefer to click on icons, this is especially true for the non geeks. On the other hand non geeks don't care what the link does internally if it starts up an exe or something else. You can have an application icon for non native Java applications too. The alternatives would be
Web start
Creating an installer package,e.g.: http://www.advancedinstaller.com/java.html This can also solve the problem of installing the JRE
Performance : If you compile your Java application into a native solution you may gain a bit on performance but it depends on what technology you use. For example Swing tends to be slow but compiling that to native is rather tricky. If you use SWT instead of Swing that is already using native components therefore no need for further native compilation. On the other hand recent JVMs perform very well and can compile java to native to further improve the performance bottlenecks. This is done silently on the background you dont need to worry about that.
Sum : in some cases it might be the only solution, but if you choose the right technologies there will be many Java based alternative solutions to reach the same goal.

The page behind the link in the question is written by a company that sells products that compile java to native code. I would not base a decision on that alone.
The question also says that the advantage of the exe a better user experience, because the user can just double click to launch the application.
That is possible with executable jar file. In fact, its actually quite easy with standard tools in the java runtime. You just have to add a manifest to a jar file, and specify the class with the main in it. You can also specify other jar files in the classpath relative to the location of the main jar file. You can also specify an image to use as a splash screen as a resource.
e.g.
Class-Path: lib/derby.jar lib/derbytools.jar lib/jcalendar-1.3.2.jar l
ib/joda-time-1.4.jar lib/log4j-1.2.14.jar lib/looks-2.2.1.jar lib/swi
ng-layout-1.0.jar
SplashScreen-Image: resources/splash.png
Main-Class: com.you.pkg.app.Main
The basic ant project in Netbeans will do all but the spash-screen for you if you use it. If your some reason you want to do all of that by hand, make sure you understand the format of the manifest file, its a bit finicky.

As Linux, mac., Solaris user I think this is bad idea.
If you want faster deploy on windows, just create installer.

Jar files provide many benefits including:
Compact: The whole application (i.e. all the class files) is stored in one archive file (which can incorporate image and sound files if required).
Ease of use: The application can be run by double-clicking.
Compression: The jar format allows you to compress your files for efficient storage.
Security: You can digitally sign the contents of a jar file. Users who recognise your signature can then optionally grant your software security privileges it wouldn't otherwise have.
I would not convert to exe.
Most Windows applications run from a .exe file (Word, Internet Explorer, FireFox, NetBeans, ...)
Java itself has no support for doing this as the executable file will then be platform dependent (i.e. it won’t run on Macs)
However, there are (free) applications that can do this for you.

Minecraft does it, so it must be a good idea!
All jokes aside, understand that it's not 'conversion' that you are looking for, but using a custom launcher. The article you linked does a nice job of explaining the different approaches and pros/cons of each. As a general idea, it requires the extra work of creating the launcher (and a different version for each different OS architecture), but it gives you a little more control (version checking is a nice feature, also you may update the application jar rather easily, like Minecraft does). Overall it's a good idea if you think it's worth the effort, and the (little) loss in portability.
Edit: the 'Custom Java Launchers And Wrappers' approach is the one that you should use if you don't need the really nifty extra features offered by those below it.

Depends on the user base. If they are tech-related in anyway then giving them a .jar file (which could be run by double click) is a good idea for mobility.
If your users are less techy but you still need it to run on multiple platforms then wrap it as exe for Windows and as .app for Mac.
Important: I would suggest making a script to wrap it into exe, so you run it each time you have a new version.

Honeypot research related to Android

I'm going to implement a honeypot for Android Smartphones as a research for my dissertation. I have never used android, java and honeypots. This the way i'm thinking to start this. I thought to use the source code (written in C language) of Honeyd which is a honeypot designed by Mr. Niels Provos. In this case I like to use eclipse 3.7 indigo for java developers. But the problem is even if i convert the source code of Honeyd to java, will the features work same as the way they did in Honeyd. Also I'm going to run android gingerbread (version 2.3) ISO in VMware workstation and try to install the converted Honeyd inside of it as a .apk application. after that i'm going to set up the virtual machine in the network to be attacked. Also I can't set up a physical high interaction honeypot as it is dangerous. so i'm concentrating on setting up a virtual low-interaction honeypot. I have some question dwelling in my head.
1) converting the Honeyd to java 2) Will Honeyd structure work for android platform? 3) As honeypots put on its own network behind a firewall, how to use this step regarding Android? 4) How to give a good alerting mechanism?
Could you please suggest me any help regarding this.

You can probably build the existing C code using the NDK.
The "proper" way would be to build it as a library and call into it from your dalvik (ie, what you code in java) application process. This also makes it easy to use java ui components for an alerting mechanism (otherwise you could have a java app or even something remote on the host that is monitoring the honeypot process for alerts)
While unsupported, many people have also had success building stand-alone command-line executables using the ndk toolchain and launching these. Since you are dealing with a customized android rather than a device, you shouldn't have too many problems with that - you can set OOM killer values on your stand alone process, and if you want you don't even need to run the android framekwork at all - you could just run on the linux that underlies it. Though one might ask what the point of the exercise would then be.
Essentially, if you are on a customized "device" (in this case virtual) and you don't really need any UI, then the only thing really unique about android is having to build C code against the bionic libc rather than a more normal embedded linux one; and even then, you can use a different libc if you statically link.
If you try to use java code to do it, you will likely run into the limitation that there is no good way to grant root access to java code, so you would have to either modify the platform to more easily run custom java code as root, or modify the underlying linux to let unprivileged code open privileged ports.
Frankly, I don't think this is a very good project idea, as you are talking about exposing a specific platform to a threat that probably isn't focused on it.

Java/Windows Get application location

Is there a way to get the location of an installed application without searching through the file system?
EDIT: Sorry for not making the question clear enough, What i am trying to is like figure out where firefox is installed from within an java application. I would like to initiate an install for an extension.

EDIT: Firefox has a registry key in HKLM\Software\Mozilla\Mozilla Firefox\\Main\InstallDirectory key. There is also a CurrentVersion key in that same HKLM\Software\Mozilla path that you can get the version number from.

On Linux you can use Runtime.exec() to call the which system program, eg which firefox would return something like /usr/bin/firefox. This won't work on Windows, and unfortunately doesn't appear to work on OS X either, despite it being UNIX-based.

The only way to do this on Windows is via a registry read. Jeff Storey's post has the reg key you need. As for doing this from Java, my original response was going to be: you can't without using JNI.
But then I did some googling, and found this library
The approach is a bit novel b/c it involves accessing parts of Sun's implementation of the Preferences API that aren't generally available. This is, certainly, not going to be compatible for different JVMs, and could break as Sun's JRE evolves - but... well - I'll bet it would be useful for at least a couple of years, maybe longer. And it's a lot easier than writing the JNI yourself...

Java on OpenVMS?

We run batch files on our OpenVMS Alpha and Integrity servers. Up until now they have been written in COBOL. As you can imagine there are many reasons why will not be able to maintain that process.
At the same time we have a team of developers that use Eclipse and know Java very well. Is there away to use Eclipse with OpenVMS?

Maybe it's because I don't keep up with COBOL, but I am not sure why you're convinced you have to abandon it. I realize it's not the "in" thing, but if you already have a large code base I'd think at least twice before switching to another language. If it's a lack of developers, I don't think you're going to run out that soon.
That said, googling Eclipse & OpenVMS gave this link:
http://www.sdtimes.com/SearchResult/32973
So it looks like you can still get Eclipse for OpenVMS from eCube. If I'm reading that article correctly, HP seems to want you to go the NetBeans directions. Personally, I'm still using Emacs (and not currently doing any Java), so won't make a recommendation; I just wanted to point out that there are other ways to develop Java than Eclipse.
I didn't find Java for VMS on Sun's site (someone feel free to correct me if you find it), but it looks like you can get the JDK from HP/Compaq at:
http://www.compaq.com/java/download/ovms/1.5.0/index.html
Edit: I meant, but forgot to say: Assuming you're using a JVM on the VMS side, you should be able to development with Eclipse on another platform, and copy the byte code to the Alphas.

Speaking from experience, if you do decide to rewrite your batch processes in Java I'd suggest you use a third party batching framework like Spring Batch instead of 'growing your own'.
Using a framework also constrains you to work within a standard and should provide non-functional requirements like re-runability, transactions and error handling.
We've (re)built a number of batch processes from various technologies to Java using a home-grown framework and I find we end up spending time on fixing/optimizing the framework rather than just focusing on the business logic.

Don't leave Cobol yet - call a-cobol-programmer-thinking-about-switching-to-the-modern-world and make a trade: you teach him Java, He maintains your legacy.

Shell scripts and java usually aren't a great mix. You may want to consider installing a JVM on your VMS servers, and using one of the JVM-hosted languages that handle that case better- jython, jruby, or groovy might be candidates to consider.

Eclipse relies on native Java extensions that do not appear to have been ported to OpenVMS. Don't give up though. Java runs on OpenVMS (at least 1.5 according to a Google search).
NetBeans has a Java only edition that should work on OpenVMS. On the NetBeans Download Page select the OS Independent Zip option for the platform.

Are you running the batch files on your OpenVMS system? If so, HP makes Java available for OpenVMS, not SUN; you will have to look at their site. You can develop your java code on a windows/linux machine and test it on your VMS system; you must be aware of the native extensions that you cannot use on the VMS implementation of Java.

Speaking with some experience in this area, I suggest developing with Eclipse on your Windows/Linux/Mac desktop, and pushing the code out to OpenVMS for testing/deployment. Eclipse won't run on OpenVMS because of some platform-specific components of its GUI.
Some caveats:
Make sure that you are using the same version JVM on your desktop as on OpenVMS.
The case insensitivity in OpenVMS can be a problem when using inherently case-sensitive Java .class files. Package everything in a .jar and deploy it that way.
The attributes on .jar files have to be set correctly or the OpenVMS JVM can't open them. The following command should do the trick:
SET FILE *.jar /ATTR=(RFM:STMLF,RAT:CR)
HP provides both a "fast" JVM and a "classic" JVM. Use the fast VM unless your memory needs are highly variable.

I realize this question is rather old, but I was shocked nobody mentioned this book covering Java on OpenVMS.
https://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com/java_book.html
What really matters when using an x86 editor on OpenVMS source is your file transfer software. OpenVMS (and many other midrange ASCII based platforms) use even though most PC developers say LineFeed Carriage Return, the data files typically store it in the other order.
You can read much more about that here:
https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/most-text-editors-get-tabs-wrong/
Your file transfer software will need to perform text mode file transfer changing the line ending characters OR your editor needs to both use and respect the better systems line ending characters. I thought there was something in Eclipse (via plug-in) to handle this. Notepadqq claims to have something.
Note this: They use Eclipse for development, not just editing.
That means they are running and debugging in their own PC based Eclipse universe and that ain't how it's going to work on OpenVMS. They are going to need a terminal into the VMS system and it needs to be a REAL VT-100 terminal emulator, not the worthless free stuff. You can read a little bit more about that here:
https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/diamond-edt-keypad-support/
and here
https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/xterm-and-vt-emulation/
Depending on how old your system is, you might have Pathworks installed and running. Then a system manager can create a directory for each user that they can map as a network drive to the PC. This lets the PC user use the directory like any other network disk and it generally could be configured to handle the line ending issues with text files.
There is no way they can develop on OpenVMS using Eclipse. They can edit files then test on OpenVMS, but they cannot develop within the IDE which I suspect is what they really want to do.
The only GUI that ever existed for OpenVMS was DECWindows. You had to run it on either a VAXStation or a DS model Alpha workstation. I never heard of Eclipse being ported to it. In the latest port of OpenVMS to x86 there is no GUI. It is a server only OS.
Yeah, I spent two decades on the platform and even wrote this book for it.

Yes, there is a version of Eclipse that supports OpenVMS called NXTware Remote. It has support for Java and COBOL languages as well as Fortran, Basic and Pascal.

You can edit OpenVMS files using pretty much any editor, including Eclipse - just use Samba to make OpenVMS directories and files visible to desktops on the network. If you install Java for OpenVMS, then you've got folks using Eclipse, and compiling and running on OpenVMS.
As for ditching Cobol - why? There's still a ton of companies running it, and it will certainly last for decades more.