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Auto-update of Java application converted to a Windows installable

I found a lot of discussions around this point but speaking either of a Java program running from the jar (in this case it is easy to replace it) or a C# application (I do not have knowledge on C#).
I use a tool (install4j, ..) to generate an installable file for Windows from the jar of my java swing application. My product installed and running on Windows should be able to "auto-update" itself, so I must have a component in my application that checks online if a newer version was to download and put in place of the currently executing.
I do not know how my application is installed in Windows (where are put the files? in one place? ... ) So what can I do to replace the current version being run with a new version (probably from a new installable file télchargé in this case) ? what's the best way?
how can I hide the questions like "do you accept ...?" and keep the original configuration during the update?

The problem for me is that my client wants/does not necessarily install java
Use the Deployment Toolkit Script to ensure the client has a suitable minimum version of Java installed. Then deploy it using Java Web Start to provide auto-update. I realize you don't want to make the client install Java, but you might be making the client install Windows if you make an executable. You'll typically lose more users by forcing them to install Windows, than by forcing them to install Java.
Now, when I give this advice to some people, they say words to the effect:
But my client only uses Windows OS! It will never be run on Mac OS or Linux/Unix.
And to that I would point out:
OK fine, but it seems yo are trying to make a left-hand turn at a right turn only intersection. If you need to turn left, you should have done that 6 blocks back.
What I mean by that is: Windows has its own languages and IDEs specialized for Windows. Being a language designed for Windows would mean it has:
Better ways to delve into the OS. Java keeps its functionality to a core set of functions that can be reliably supported across all major platforms. Anything beyond that requires native code.
Faster development time for any GUI elements. Java GUIs need to be designed using layout managers which are harder to learn and not conducive to Drag-and-Drop GUI design, which can be much faster.
A Windows based language probably has a slew of APIs and tools for providing auto-update, or if not, more free or reasonably priced 3rd party APIs for that.
..there are customers who imposed to not install java..
There is something you don't seem to understand. The GNU Compiler for the JavaTM Programming Language compiles code to natives. That is the only way to 'turn a Java app. into an executable. The GNU Compiler..
..supports most of the 1.4 libraries plus some 1.5 additions.
It does not even claim to support all of Java 1.3.
There are other utilities to install Java apps. with a private JRE. It might seem the JRE installation is invisible to the average user. But the power user would not be fooled. E.G.
Look and Feel
A Swing based app. using the Native Pluggable Look and Feel might look 'much like' a Windows app., but many people can still tell the difference. Swing does particular components differently to native Windows components (most notably JFileChooser, but there are others), and although the rest of the components look a lot like Windows equivalents, they are not exactly the same. Even the AWT based FileDialog looks different to the Windows file dialog.
Security
If the user has a problem with their PC and decides to kill a misbehaving app. they might type the following command sequence to bring up the Task Manager: Ctrl Alt Del
Even most non-power users know that key combo.
Now, let's say I am a potential customer that thinks 'Java is insecure - I don't want it on my PC'. Your app. comes along, I look at the box, no mention of Java. Good so far. Look at the one or two screenshots of it on the back of the box - looks much like a Windows app., OK.
So I fork out $24.95 for it.
I get it back to the office, install it and run, thinking:
It has an odd feel to it, but I'm too busy now, I'll check it out later.
Then I go surfing off to the net, visit a site infected with malware, and that malware causes MS Word to lock up. So I go to kill MS Word in preparation for restarting it, but.. As I'm scrolling down the available processes I notice.. Java is running.
What the huh..?
I immediately kill every Java process and see.. your app. drop off screen.
Let's go even further to assume the Malware (that is still running) goes on to cause $2000 damage to my hardware & wipes the client database I spent 3 years putting together ($50,000 loss).
I would get on the phone immediately to my lawyer and take you to court, suing you for the sum total of $1,052,024.95.
Later, in court:
Judge: What is the million collars for?
Me: Mental stress, your honor. The defendant lied to me and now I have become paranoid. Since that malware was installed, I've lost my business, my home, my wife and my peace of mind. It has caused me to become deeply depressed and I am experiencing suicidal thoughts.
Who do you think the judge is going to side with? Do you really think you can prove that your app. was in no way responsible for the problem?
Sure, you can put a disclaimer on the box:
No claims of responsibility, use at own risk.
But there are any number of US states as well as other entire countries, that will toss that entire End User Lisense Agreement right out the window and hold you responsible.
What I'm getting at, is that you are taking a huge legal risk to pretend that a Java app. is anything but a Java app. So don't do that!

I am also very keen to know that, as per my knowledge, I deployed my application using JNLP (java network launch protocol) after signing your jar file, Client's jar itself replace with the newer version.
The confirmation question "Do you Accept" in JNLP is because of the certificate windows security and JVM certification didn't recognize that.
here is tutorial for JNLP
http://www.mkyong.com/java/java-web-start-jnlp-tutorial-unofficial-guide/

How to develop a microcontroller software in java with eclipse

I don't know if I've been looking at the wrong place but it seems the documentation for this is very limited on the Oracle website. (Even on google)
I'm working on a school project in which we have to make a software in java and embed it on a micro controler. The program is never actually going to be put on a microcontroller though, we just have to develop it.
I've been looking at the Java SE Embedded, ME Client and ME documentation for the better part of 2 hours now and I still have no idea where to start.
Here's what I need to do.
I would like to develop it in eclipse preferably because it's connected to our repository. (we could use netbeans if it's not possible with eclipse)
We need a way to load the software on a microcontroller. (like an eclipse plugin)
We need to be able to run the program on a UI that we will code to test it and to show our teacher that it works.
We almost had it going with the Java ME Embedded but there is no way to make a UI to test it.
If someone can give me a link to a tutorial or anything would be much appreciated.
Thank you
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I need to specify that we can choose any microcontroller or any range of microcontroller.

Does this need to run directly on the micro or can there be an OS? If you are allowed to run an OS then take a look at the beagle board which has several JVMs available (See http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Java)
For a lower cost alternative, Raspberry Pi offers a JVM as well (See http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4920)
Both the boards I've listed above are well supported by the community so you should be able to find lots of information by utilizing your favorite search engine.
If you need to run java directly on the CPU, then it appears your options are more limited... A quick search turned up a company called ajile systems who make a CPU module which can directly process java bytecode.

Java to EXE good or bad idea?

I have been wondering for a long time about converting Java projects to EXE.
The advantages relies in the faster deployment on Windows where the user simply double clicks the EXE and the application is launched where is with Java, he has to run certain commands.
But EXE is really not what the Java was intended for which is portability.
So what do you think, Java to EXE good or bad idea?
I found some interesting article here.
Update
Wow, so may contradicting views so far. I would like you guys to add the pros and cons of the JAVA to EXE.

Since my expertise is with Java Web Start, which is for launching desktop apps. with a GUI, please consider my advice to be targeted mostly at those types of apps.
Other people have commented on the OS specific nature of an EXE. I always have to wonder why people choose Java to develop Windows specific desktop apps., since the Visual Studio software for Windows would probably make both GUI development (no x-plat Java layouts to bend your head around) and deployment (just guessing it can produce an EXE) easier.
OTOH only you can say what is the best development tool/language for this use-case.
As to the potential disadvantages of creating an EXE, I note at the JavaFAQ on EXEs.
There are a number of good reasons not to package your application in an executable. Daniel Sjöblom notes:
It will probably not be any faster. Modern virtual machines don't interpret bytecodes, they actually employ a JIT compiler to produce native, compiled code. Check Sun's site for further information on JIT compilers.
Static compilation increases the size of your application multifold, since all of the libraries you are using need to be linked into the application.
You lose 'free' upgrades to your program. Anytime your user downloads a new faster virtual machine, your app gets a speed boost. If you are using an exe, you will not get this benefit.
Jon A. Cruz details some of the extra steps in the development process required to create an exe. He points out that developers making native exe's need to:
Validate the latest versions of the compilation product from the vendor. If critical bugs are found, it can't be used to build a shipping product until those are addressed. Work that needs to be done each time a revision comes out from the vendor.
Submit the software through a QA cycle. Once engineering thinks things are done, they need to be verified. So every shipping version and update of a product needs to go through complete testing cycles.
Further, since native compilation is per target platform, the QA cycle needs to be done completely for each target platform, which multiplies effort required.
Shelf space. Maybe not a big deal nowadays, but could be.
Then one needs to get all customers to upgrade to the proper version. Either have free updates (in which case the business needs to absorb the cost of producing updates) or alternatively needs to handle clients not all updating.
Jon notes futher: When you ship standard Java bytecodes, VM problems are the responsibility of the platform or VM vendor. However, when you ship compiled binaries, they become your responsibility (even if they're actually bugs in the vendor's compilation product).
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Of course, my first choice for deploying Java rich client apps. is using Java Web Start. Putting some of the benefits/features of web-start in point form:
JWS provides many appealing features including, but not limited to:
splash screens
desktop integration
file associations
automatic update (including lazy downloads and programmatic control of updates)
partitioning of natives & other resource downloads by platform, architecture or Java version,
configuration of run-time environment (minimum J2SE version, run-time options, RAM etc.)
easy management of common resources using extensions
..
I decided to highlight auto-update since with the gradual shift from apps. delivered on disk to apps. delivered over a network, auto-update is becoming more common. JWS still provides the best update experience (very configurable, mostly transparent to the user) I've seen.
And of course, JWS works on OS' for desktop PCs for which Java is available.
Update
..does Java web apps require internet connection?
(Note that name is 'Java Web Start'.)
Sure it does. At least for the initial installation. Update checks can be specified to continue to launch the previously installed version of the app. if the user is not currently connected.
But then, (in my estimation) there are more machines (such as Netbooks) with no CD/DVD drive, than there are without internet connections. If you want to sell to the larger market, look to the network to deliver the app.

It depends on your needs. We had written a little barcode client scanner app here for our customer. They run it on two Windows-PCs. They are happy having their well-known exe-files. We coded it in Java and created an EXE-file for them.
Both parties are happy with it - so why not doing it?
When there are good reasons for it and nothing against it except dogmatism then it is ok in my opinion.

I am the author of the article you linked to - glad you've found it interesting!
As my article states, and as others have already pointed out in their answers, there are multiple ways to simplify deployment of Java apps - JNLP, EXE wrappers, installers bundling a private JRE, and so on. But true native compilation is the only option that also provides protection against Java decompilers - you simply do not ship the bytecodes.
Of course, that does not make reverse engineering of and tampering with your code impossible, just much more costly in terms of required skillset and time.
As far as application performance is concerned, native compilation can make a big difference if you target embedded systems. This also applies to memory and disk footprint, albeit to a smaller extent. On the desktop you would typically get better startup, but in most other scenarios and aspects the results would depend on your app.

If it has a good reason why not? Even Eclipse has an EXE on windows and (and platform dependent binaries for linux, mac, etc) Of course you loose portability but if that is not important then go ahead.
UPDATE
The question is what do you want to achieve by creating an exe :
Convenience : users on windows prefer to click on icons, this is especially true for the non geeks. On the other hand non geeks don't care what the link does internally if it starts up an exe or something else. You can have an application icon for non native Java applications too. The alternatives would be
Web start
Creating an installer package,e.g.: http://www.advancedinstaller.com/java.html This can also solve the problem of installing the JRE
Performance : If you compile your Java application into a native solution you may gain a bit on performance but it depends on what technology you use. For example Swing tends to be slow but compiling that to native is rather tricky. If you use SWT instead of Swing that is already using native components therefore no need for further native compilation. On the other hand recent JVMs perform very well and can compile java to native to further improve the performance bottlenecks. This is done silently on the background you dont need to worry about that.
Sum : in some cases it might be the only solution, but if you choose the right technologies there will be many Java based alternative solutions to reach the same goal.

The page behind the link in the question is written by a company that sells products that compile java to native code. I would not base a decision on that alone.
The question also says that the advantage of the exe a better user experience, because the user can just double click to launch the application.
That is possible with executable jar file. In fact, its actually quite easy with standard tools in the java runtime. You just have to add a manifest to a jar file, and specify the class with the main in it. You can also specify other jar files in the classpath relative to the location of the main jar file. You can also specify an image to use as a splash screen as a resource.
e.g.
Class-Path: lib/derby.jar lib/derbytools.jar lib/jcalendar-1.3.2.jar l
ib/joda-time-1.4.jar lib/log4j-1.2.14.jar lib/looks-2.2.1.jar lib/swi
ng-layout-1.0.jar
SplashScreen-Image: resources/splash.png
Main-Class: com.you.pkg.app.Main
The basic ant project in Netbeans will do all but the spash-screen for you if you use it. If your some reason you want to do all of that by hand, make sure you understand the format of the manifest file, its a bit finicky.

As Linux, mac., Solaris user I think this is bad idea.
If you want faster deploy on windows, just create installer.

Jar files provide many benefits including:
Compact: The whole application (i.e. all the class files) is stored in one archive file (which can incorporate image and sound files if required).
Ease of use: The application can be run by double-clicking.
Compression: The jar format allows you to compress your files for efficient storage.
Security: You can digitally sign the contents of a jar file. Users who recognise your signature can then optionally grant your software security privileges it wouldn't otherwise have.
I would not convert to exe.
Most Windows applications run from a .exe file (Word, Internet Explorer, FireFox, NetBeans, ...)
Java itself has no support for doing this as the executable file will then be platform dependent (i.e. it won’t run on Macs)
However, there are (free) applications that can do this for you.

Minecraft does it, so it must be a good idea!
All jokes aside, understand that it's not 'conversion' that you are looking for, but using a custom launcher. The article you linked does a nice job of explaining the different approaches and pros/cons of each. As a general idea, it requires the extra work of creating the launcher (and a different version for each different OS architecture), but it gives you a little more control (version checking is a nice feature, also you may update the application jar rather easily, like Minecraft does). Overall it's a good idea if you think it's worth the effort, and the (little) loss in portability.
Edit: the 'Custom Java Launchers And Wrappers' approach is the one that you should use if you don't need the really nifty extra features offered by those below it.

Depends on the user base. If they are tech-related in anyway then giving them a .jar file (which could be run by double click) is a good idea for mobility.
If your users are less techy but you still need it to run on multiple platforms then wrap it as exe for Windows and as .app for Mac.
Important: I would suggest making a script to wrap it into exe, so you run it each time you have a new version.

Is there a universal language?

We're designing an app that will run on Windows, OSX, iOS, and Androids. It would be really nice to at least have most of the code in a single language rather than having to use Objective C for the Apple versions, C# or C++ for Windows, and Java for Android.
We were looking at Flex (with all of its problems) as a way to avoid having to use a different language for each version, but Adobe has thrown in the towel and in the long run that's not going to do the job. Java used to promise to be universal, but it looks like Apple no longer supports it as a part of the distributed OS, and as far as I can tell Microsoft never supported it. We don't want our users to have to download and install something just so they can use our app.
Is there a solution? Or are we stuck with building the app in multiple languages?

HTML + css + JavaScript!
Run your app on a standard web server. All of the above have standards compliant web browsers, all of the above support JavaScript and AJAX. The only thing that really varies is screen size and this can easily be dealt with by using a custom .css file for each target browser.

You could host a web application on a server and use the app browsers to interact with the application.
Although not a native application, all devices would be able to use it.
The downside is that server connectivity would be required, however this may not be an issue.

"global" languages are most likely to use virtual machines, so you can't escape the "users have to have to download and install something just so they can use the app"... I think Java is your best bet if you don't want to deal with problems of languages that compiles into native machine code.

You could use C# on all those platforms:
"Normal" .NET on Windows
Mono on OSX
MonoDroid on Android
MonoTouch for iOS
(If you ever wanted to write an app for Windows Phone 7, you'd be fine there too.)
Of course the UI part will have to change significantly between different platforms, and I doubt that it'll be particularly seamless, but it's worth considering at least.

i am not very sure, but i have heard python is a universal language. I have tried this with both mac and windows, not sure about the other plactforms

I believe C++ code can be run on all those platforms: Windows has full support for it; Android has NDK; and you can use Objective-C++ on iOS (and I assume OSX as well!).
I wouldn't go so far as to claim it's the best option, but I figured it was worth mentioning.
Ultimately a lot will depend on the nature of the app you are developing. If it's a large app I'd strongly suggest doing some detailed consultation with someone with experience in the area: because of the vagaries of the different platforms, this is one area where experience counts for an awful lot.

There are multiple options, depending on your app requirements:
First, Web app, as many said before. It is the same as the greatest common divisor - very small
Second Build the core of your app in c/c++, and for the interface use a framework that fits your needs. These suggestions are really, really great. You can even develop the interface separately for each platform, in Java for Android, Objective C for iOS, etc
Do not forget that never, ever you will be able to make the same code run on all platforms. There will always be some part with #define MAC or #define ANDROID. It's just impossible to run identical code, even for the simplest app.
Unless is a
void main(void){}
Even a web app will have a code like
if(browser()==Safari) {}
else {}

I think the answer depends on what kind of app you are going to build.
If it's like twitter, a good web interface is the answer. Each client just need to handle the GUI work, with the platform's own language and lib.
If it's a game, no communication with server. I prefer C and a script such as Lua to build the core of your app.
"Is there a solution? Or are we stuck with building the app in multiple languages?"
No, no solution for this. We use different languages because they run in different platforms. Universal languages, such as HTML, have lots of constrains because to be universal you must cut all the differences. It is the intersection set of all platforms, which is very very small .

Using HTML and Javascript is likely to be the best approach. Another option which runs on these platforms is Java FX 2.0.

Java on OpenVMS?

We run batch files on our OpenVMS Alpha and Integrity servers. Up until now they have been written in COBOL. As you can imagine there are many reasons why will not be able to maintain that process.
At the same time we have a team of developers that use Eclipse and know Java very well. Is there away to use Eclipse with OpenVMS?

Maybe it's because I don't keep up with COBOL, but I am not sure why you're convinced you have to abandon it. I realize it's not the "in" thing, but if you already have a large code base I'd think at least twice before switching to another language. If it's a lack of developers, I don't think you're going to run out that soon.
That said, googling Eclipse & OpenVMS gave this link:
http://www.sdtimes.com/SearchResult/32973
So it looks like you can still get Eclipse for OpenVMS from eCube. If I'm reading that article correctly, HP seems to want you to go the NetBeans directions. Personally, I'm still using Emacs (and not currently doing any Java), so won't make a recommendation; I just wanted to point out that there are other ways to develop Java than Eclipse.
I didn't find Java for VMS on Sun's site (someone feel free to correct me if you find it), but it looks like you can get the JDK from HP/Compaq at:
http://www.compaq.com/java/download/ovms/1.5.0/index.html
Edit: I meant, but forgot to say: Assuming you're using a JVM on the VMS side, you should be able to development with Eclipse on another platform, and copy the byte code to the Alphas.

Speaking from experience, if you do decide to rewrite your batch processes in Java I'd suggest you use a third party batching framework like Spring Batch instead of 'growing your own'.
Using a framework also constrains you to work within a standard and should provide non-functional requirements like re-runability, transactions and error handling.
We've (re)built a number of batch processes from various technologies to Java using a home-grown framework and I find we end up spending time on fixing/optimizing the framework rather than just focusing on the business logic.

Don't leave Cobol yet - call a-cobol-programmer-thinking-about-switching-to-the-modern-world and make a trade: you teach him Java, He maintains your legacy.

Shell scripts and java usually aren't a great mix. You may want to consider installing a JVM on your VMS servers, and using one of the JVM-hosted languages that handle that case better- jython, jruby, or groovy might be candidates to consider.

Eclipse relies on native Java extensions that do not appear to have been ported to OpenVMS. Don't give up though. Java runs on OpenVMS (at least 1.5 according to a Google search).
NetBeans has a Java only edition that should work on OpenVMS. On the NetBeans Download Page select the OS Independent Zip option for the platform.

Are you running the batch files on your OpenVMS system? If so, HP makes Java available for OpenVMS, not SUN; you will have to look at their site. You can develop your java code on a windows/linux machine and test it on your VMS system; you must be aware of the native extensions that you cannot use on the VMS implementation of Java.

Speaking with some experience in this area, I suggest developing with Eclipse on your Windows/Linux/Mac desktop, and pushing the code out to OpenVMS for testing/deployment. Eclipse won't run on OpenVMS because of some platform-specific components of its GUI.
Some caveats:
Make sure that you are using the same version JVM on your desktop as on OpenVMS.
The case insensitivity in OpenVMS can be a problem when using inherently case-sensitive Java .class files. Package everything in a .jar and deploy it that way.
The attributes on .jar files have to be set correctly or the OpenVMS JVM can't open them. The following command should do the trick:
SET FILE *.jar /ATTR=(RFM:STMLF,RAT:CR)
HP provides both a "fast" JVM and a "classic" JVM. Use the fast VM unless your memory needs are highly variable.

I realize this question is rather old, but I was shocked nobody mentioned this book covering Java on OpenVMS.
https://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com/java_book.html
What really matters when using an x86 editor on OpenVMS source is your file transfer software. OpenVMS (and many other midrange ASCII based platforms) use even though most PC developers say LineFeed Carriage Return, the data files typically store it in the other order.
You can read much more about that here:
https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/most-text-editors-get-tabs-wrong/
Your file transfer software will need to perform text mode file transfer changing the line ending characters OR your editor needs to both use and respect the better systems line ending characters. I thought there was something in Eclipse (via plug-in) to handle this. Notepadqq claims to have something.
Note this: They use Eclipse for development, not just editing.
That means they are running and debugging in their own PC based Eclipse universe and that ain't how it's going to work on OpenVMS. They are going to need a terminal into the VMS system and it needs to be a REAL VT-100 terminal emulator, not the worthless free stuff. You can read a little bit more about that here:
https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/diamond-edt-keypad-support/
and here
https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/xterm-and-vt-emulation/
Depending on how old your system is, you might have Pathworks installed and running. Then a system manager can create a directory for each user that they can map as a network drive to the PC. This lets the PC user use the directory like any other network disk and it generally could be configured to handle the line ending issues with text files.
There is no way they can develop on OpenVMS using Eclipse. They can edit files then test on OpenVMS, but they cannot develop within the IDE which I suspect is what they really want to do.
The only GUI that ever existed for OpenVMS was DECWindows. You had to run it on either a VAXStation or a DS model Alpha workstation. I never heard of Eclipse being ported to it. In the latest port of OpenVMS to x86 there is no GUI. It is a server only OS.
Yeah, I spent two decades on the platform and even wrote this book for it.

Yes, there is a version of Eclipse that supports OpenVMS called NXTware Remote. It has support for Java and COBOL languages as well as Fortran, Basic and Pascal.

You can edit OpenVMS files using pretty much any editor, including Eclipse - just use Samba to make OpenVMS directories and files visible to desktops on the network. If you install Java for OpenVMS, then you've got folks using Eclipse, and compiling and running on OpenVMS.
As for ditching Cobol - why? There's still a ton of companies running it, and it will certainly last for decades more.