Perhaps the reason I stalled learning Java until now is because I HATE how Java handles external libraries. I'm stuck keeping them in one place, adding them individually, fixing problems with versioning and every time I move/rename them, and copying and writing the classpath over and over each time I release a Java application.
There has to be an elegant solution to all of this. I keep all of my libraries (regardless of task, platform, or other) in their own little folder inside a "lib" folder in my development folder, kind of like this:
Dev
-lib
+JS-jQuery
+Flex-Degrafa
-Java-Xerces
+Xerces-1.2.3
+More libraries
I can use either Netbeans or Eclipse for Java dev, but none of them provide a very streamlined (and not to mention idiot-proof) way of managing all of these.
A nudge in the right direction or an online article/tutorial on this would be greatly appreciated.
You can either use Ant + Ivy or Maven to manage your library dependencies.
If it is only dependency management you're after and you're happy with the rest of your build process, I would use Ivy, as it can unobtrusively manage your dependencies, leaving your existing build process intact. There is a plugin for Eclipse called IvyIDE that contributes your dependencies via a classpath container.
Maven 2 has a steeper learning curve but provides a much richer set of functionality for building your projects and Eclipse integration through m2eclipse or IAM.
Personally I use Maven as I have a large number of projects to work with and Maven is particularly suited to efficient development across lots of projects.
Have a look at the introductory documentation to see what works for you.
Ivy Tutorial
Maven Getting Started Guide
Netbeans 6.7.1's Maven support is quite good and comes out of the box with the IDE.
The Eclipse addon was frustrating enough that I gave Netbeans another try.
A third choice besides ChssPly76's options is to use Ant with the Maven Ant Tasks. I don't know if I'd call any of these solutions particularly "elegant," but they do spare you the need to manage your own lib/ directory and classpath variables.
If you're working on Linux you can install Java libraries with APT or RPM.
Otherwise, I normally check precompiled JARs into a lib directory in my project's version control repository and make sure the names of the JAR files include full version information. E.g. lib/foo-1.5.6.jar, not lib/foo.jar.
To avoid having to manually set the classpath before running your app, you can set the classpath in the Manifests of the JARs themselves to define the dependencies of each JAR file. The JVM will follow all the dependencies when loading classes.
Maven is often more trouble than it's worth, but the ability to open a maven project directly into IDEs such as IntelliJ is excellent. For example, IntelliJ will download all dependencies and have them available without having to run a build first, or an mvn command and then a project refresh. It also isn't necessary to re-generate the project every time a dependency is added. I work with a number of Eclipse developers who switched to IntelliJ for this alone.
However, one shortfall of Maven is that many libraries (or versions of libraries) are not available on public repositories. Therefore it is often necessary to set up a local repository such as archiva. In ant, it would just be a matter of adding it to the lib directory in the repository.
Maven can also attack when you need to do something that maven doesn't directly support via a plugin. What would normally be a few lines of ant can often turn into a morning's worth of work.
Finally, buildr is an excellent way of using Maven's dependency management and plugins, while also supporting ad-hoc tasks.
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Semi-greenthumb here. I'm looking to download some Apache Commons and Google Guava libraries to use in Eclipse. Multiple Q&As (example, example) have said to download the library myself, and then either load it in Eclipse by path as a "User Library" that I can add manually to projects or go through an automated project management plugin like Maven. However, that leaves the question, where should I actually store the library on my system? (Mac OS)
Ideally, I want it in a directory that is common to all Mac/*NIX systems. However, this Q&A seems to suggest that doing so would be a bad idea, and this comment implies that I should keep a separate copy of the library within each project that uses it. This seems like it would be both a waste of space (for projects that use the same library version), as well as make linting Java files in a separate text editor a hassle due to libraries being stored within an Eclipse project's file structure rather than at the system level.
So where should I put 3rd party Java libraries?
I faced the same issue when I was maintaining my project dependencies in a manual way. It is difficult to have control over them, and sometimes updating a library can be a really painful experience if that update breaks a transitive dependency.
All this pain went away when I switched to Maven.
When you configure Maven, you can set the directory where these libraries will reside (common path is {user.dir}/.m2 } and every time a dependency is added to a project (via POM), then Maven will check if that library is already downloaded. If not, it will download it and store it for any future use (of the same version). It also resolves transitive dependencies for you, so you don't have to worry of breaking it when manually replacing a JAR.
This way you don't have to worry where the libraries are, your IDE will reference them automatically using the apropiate Maven plugin
I'm not saying you should use Maven, but if your problem is managing dependencies, then Maven (or any other dependency management system, eg: Gradle) may help you.
The comment you cited is pretty naïve in its approach. There are far too many build management tools to handle dependencies without having to deal with these minutiae.
If you decide on a tool such as Maven, your dependencies will be downloaded into a specified local repository (a directory on your filesystem), and all Mavenized applications can easily be configured to use those (shared) artifacts.
Most Java supported IDEs like Eclipse come with the option to initialize projects with Maven (or Gradle, as another example) and have sleek interfaces to easily edit their configuration files to specify which dependencies your projects will use.
I would strongly recommend either of those as opposed to manual JAR/artifact management, even for basic personal tinkering projects.
I need to put some old java class library code that I have into a repo, from where others can check it out and build it. You know, like any public repo.
But, I'm not sure what the best way to do this is in the java world. In old-fashioned projects, we just used to supply the build scripts and a list of dependencies. You gathered or installed the dependencies separately before running the build scripts.
But these days for many languages, you have package managers and the like that pull from remote locations and your build scripts need to include dependency fetching.
Basically, I'm not familiar with how java libs and programs are packaged.
Should I include the (dependency) libs in the repo? And update them whenever a new version is out?
Does java now have a package manager that will pull in the latest versions of the dependencies?
Do I leave it upto the people checking out to download the libs themselves before they run the build scripts?
I'd prefer it if the solution didn't involve installing a huge package manager. Gradle wants to pull in like 150MB+ of stuff and as far as I am aware, it isn't ubiquitous on java deployments.
Thanks.
Use Maven. I believe these days it's the #1 "package manager" (not a term that's usually used to describe it, but quite apt) by a large margin. It's built into Netbeans, IntelliJ IDEA, and I believe Eclipse.
However, it won't just "pull the latest versions" of your dependencies, since your application may break. Only the versions you specify. Therefore, you should periodically update (and test) your code to reduce incompatibilities when someone tries to use your library in an application which directly or indirectly pulls newer versions of the same libs (and they get into a bit of "dll hell"), or reduce your use of third-party libraries in general.
You should also consider publishing your library in a compiled form to Maven Central so that using your library would be as easy as adding a dependency to the pom.xml. The problem that Maven solves, after all, is not so much making it easy to build your library (since just bundling the dependencies gets you most of the way), but making it easy to use your library.
I have multiple java projects in a folder. Also there is a second folder with libraries, that might be used as build dependencies from the projects. The projects may also have dependencies to other Projects. What's the best approach to build all projects ?
In other words I want to build the projects without explicit telling their dependencies.I think the biggest problem is the dependecy between the projects.
There are multiple build systems that are available that you may use. Maven has a complete dependency system built into it. Almost all third party open source jars are directly accessible via the World Wide Maven repository system. Basically, you describe the jar you need (groupId, artifactId, and version) and Maven will automatically fetch it for you. Not only that, but Maven also will build your project without having to create a build file. Instead, you have to describe your project in a project object model (a pom.xml file) and Maven will download everything you need, including all compilers, etc.
Almost all new projects use Maven, but Maven has a few downsides:
Since you don't control a build process, it can sometimes feel like poking a prodding a black box to get the build to work the way you want.
Documentation can be scant -- especially if you're moving beyond basic Java compiles.
You usually have to arrange your project in a specific layout. For example, source files should go under src/main/java while JUnit tests are under src/test/java. You don't have to follow the recommended layout, but then you'd have to modify the pom.xml file this way and that to get your build to work. That defeats the whole purpose of the pom.xml in the first place.
If you already have another build system setup (like Ant), you lose everything. There's no easy way to move from Ant to Maven.
The other is called Ant with Ivy. Ivy uses Ant for building, but can access Maven's world wide repository system for third party dependencies. It's a great compromise if you already are heavily invested in Ant. I also find Ant with Ivy to be better documented than Maven (although that's not too difficult). There's an excellent chapter going over the basics of Ivy in Manning Publication's Ant in Action.
With either process, I would recommend that you build a company wide Maven repository using either Nexus or Artifactory. This way, any proprietary third party jars (like Oracle jars) can also be stored in your company wide Maven repository since they won't be in the standard World Wide Maven repository.
By the way, if this is a company wide effort, and you are moving multiple Ant projects into Ivy, I have an Ivy project I use in Github that makes things easier.
Oh, there's a third possibility called Gradle which I know nothing about. I also believe it can use the World Wide Maven repository. It's based on Groovy which is based on Java syntax, and that's about all I can say. Maybe others can fill you in on the details. The Gradle group contends it solves a lot of problems of both Ant/Ivy and Maven.
Whatever tool you use, if you have various projects interdependent, you need to be clear on the independent ones which will be built first before building the dependent projects. You need to have a clear dependency structure for your projects.
You can do this with Apache Ivy. You can lay out the locations for you common libraries, define published artifacts and inter-dependencies in an ivy.xml document in each project, and let a top-level Ant build with the Ivy tasks figure out what the build order should be based on those dependencies.
Sourceforge.net has a filter for Java projects, but I'm looking for a way to narrow them down to ones that are meant to be built in Eclipse.
Edit I'm using Eclipse Metrics and Omondo plug-ins to analyze open-source Java projects. I'm looking for a quick way to find Eclipse open-source projects that can build quickly in Eclipse, so I can use these tools on them for analysis.
I presume that a project that is "meant to be built in Eclipse" is one that has an Eclipse .project file and other stuff checked into the source repository.
First, checking in Eclipse-specific stuff can a bad idea because it is easy to include stuff (e.g. build pathnames, preferences) that are specific to the developer. You then get problems if there are multiple committers ...
Second, this should unnecessary. Most of the stuff in the .project file can be generated when you import the project. If that's not possible, then the project should provide instructions for setting up the buildpath etcetera. (Note that if the project uses Maven, this is all taken care of for you.)
Third, any project worth its salt will include build scripts of some kind that allow you to rebuild without using any IDE.
Finally, any project that only supports building using Eclipse is excluding the significant subset of developers who use other Java IDEs.
Note that neither Maven or Ant builds require Eclipse to work. Both of these build tools can run from the command line, or from other Java IDEs.
OK. I understand your requirements now. You don't actually care what the project is ... or that it is sound / worthwhile project. You just need it for testing your plugin. (I won't comment on the "validity" of doing this. It depends on what you hope to achieve.)
I suggest that you install the m2eclipse plugin and look for projects with a "pom.xml" file. The projects don't need to be eclipse specific. The m2eclipse plugin automatically creates the ".project", ".classpath" and so on based on the "pom.xml" file. There's no need to exclude any particular version control system, because the m2eclipse plugin can import Maven projects that you checked out from the command line.
We have several products which have a lot of shared code and which must be maintained several versions back.
To handle this we use a lot of Eclipse projects, some contain library jars, and some contain shared source code (in several projects to avoid getting a giant heap with numerous dependencies while being able to compile everything from scratch to ensure that source and binaries are consistent). We manage those with projectSet.psf's as these can directly pull all projects out from CVS and leave a fully prepared workspace. We do not do ant builds directly or use maven.
We now want to be able to put all these projects and their various versions in a Continous Integration tool - I like Hudson but this is just a matter of taste - which essentially means that we need to get an automatic way to check out the projects to a fresh workspace, and compile the source folders as described in the project-files in each project. Hudson does not provide such an approach to build a project, so I have been considering what the best way to approach this would be.
Ideas have been
Find or write an ant plugin/converter that understands projectSet.psf's and map to cvs-checkout and compile tags.
Create the build.xml files from within Eclipse and use those. I tried this, and found the result to be verbose and with absolute locations which is not good with automatic tools putting files where they want to.
Write a Hudson plugin which understands projectSet.psf's to derive a configuration and build it.
Just bite the bullet and manually create and update the CI configuration whenever stuff breaks - I don't like this :)
I'd really like to hear about other peoples experiences so I can decide how to approach this.
Edit: Another option might be using a CI which knows better about Eclipse projects and/or project sets. We are not religious - this is just a matter of getting stuff running without having to do everything ourselves. Would Cruise Control be a better option perhaps? Others?
Edit: Found that ant4eclipse has a "Team Project Set" facility. http://ant4eclipse.sourceforge.net/
Edit: Used the ant4eclipse and ant-contrib ant extensions to build a complete workspace as a sjgned runnable jar file similar to the Runnable Jar facility in Eclipse 3.5M6. I am still depending on Eclipse to create the initial empty workspace, and extract the ProjectSet, so that is the next hurdle.
Edit: Ended up with a dual configuration, namely that Hudson extracts the same set of modules as listed in the ProjectSet.pdf file from CVS (which needs to have the same tag) causing them to be located next to each other. Then ant4eclipse works well with the projectSet.psf file embedded in the main module. Caveat: Module list in Hudson must be manually updated, and it appears that a manual workspace cleanup is needed afterwards to let Hudson "discover" that there is more projects now than earlier. This has now worked well for us for a couple of months, but it was quite tedious to get everything working inside the ant file.
Edit: The "Use Team Projects" with ant4eclipse and a Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C in Project Panel with a Ctrl-V in the CVS projects in Hudson has turned out to work well enough for us to live with (for mature projects this is very rarely changed). I am awaiting the release of ant4eclipse 1.0 - http://www.ant4eclipse.org/, currently in milestone 2 - to see how much homegrown functionality can be replaced with ant4eclipse things.
Edit: ant4eclipse is as of 20100609 in M4 so the schedule at http://www.ant4eclipse.org/node?page=1 is slipping somewhat.
Edit: My conclusion after using our ant4eclipse approach for a longer period is that the build script get very gnarly and is hard to maintain. Also the Team ProjectSet facility (which ant4eclipse use to locate the projects) which works well for CVS based repositories, but not after we migrated to git (which is a big thing in itself). New projects will most likely be based on maven, as this has good support in Jenkins.
I'm not completely sure I understand the problem, but it sounds like the root issue is that you have many projects, some of which are dependent on others. Some of the projects that are closer to the "leaf" of the dependency tree need to be able to use "stable" (or previously "released") versions of the more "core" projects.
I solve exactly this problem using Hudson, ant, and ivy. I follow a pattern demonstrated by Clark in Pragmatic Project Automation (he doesn't demonstrate the dependency problems and solutions, and he uses CruiseControl rather than hudson.)
I have a hand-written ant build file (we call it "cc-build.xml", because of our CruiseControl roots.) This file is responsible for refreshing the working space for the project from the CM repository and labeling the contents for future reference. It then hands off control to another hand-written ant build file (build.xml) that is provided by each project's developers. This project is responsible for the traditional build steps (compile, packaging, etc.) It is required to spit out the installable artifacts, unit test reports, etc, to the Hudson artifacts directory. It is my experience that automatically generated build files (by Eclipse or other similar IDE's) will never get close to getting this sufficiently robust for use in a CI scenario.
Additionally, it uses ivy to resolve its own dependencies. Ivy supports precisely-specified dependency versions (e.g. "use version 1.1") and it supports "fuzzy versions" (e.g. "use version 1.1+" or "use the latest version in integration status.") Our projects typically start out specifying a very "fuzzy" version for internal projects under ongoing development, and as they get close to a release point, they "freeze" the dependency version so that stuff stops moving underneath them.
The non-leaf projects (projects that are dependents for other projects) also use ivy to publish their artifacts to our internal ivy repository. That repository keeps all past builds of the dependents, so that any project can always depend on any other previous version.
Lastly, each project in Hudson is configured to have a build trigger that causes a rebuild when any of its dependent projects successfully build. This causes them to get built again with the (possibly) new ivy dependent version.
It is worth noting that once you get this up and running, consistent automated "labeling" or "tagging" of an automated build's inputs is going to be critical for you - otherwise troubleshooting post-build problems is going to result in having to untangle a hornet's nest to find the original source.
Getting all of this setup for our environment took quite a bit of effort (primarily in setting up the ivy repository and ant build files,) but it has paid for itself many times over in saved headaches in manually managing the dependencies and decreased troubleshooting effort.
Write a Hudson plugin which
understands projectSet.psf's to derive
a configuration and build it.
That seems like the winning answer to me.
I work with CruiseControl rather than Hudson but in my experience if you can create a plugin that solves your problem it will quickly payoff. And it is generally pretty easy to write a plugin that is custom fit for your solution as opposed to one that needs to work for everyone in a similar situation.
I have tried both Cruise Control (CC) and Hudson for our CI solution. We (as a company) decided on Hudson. But for your question "Does CC support Eclipse project build" the answer is no as far as I know. CC supports many more different build tools and Source Control systems but it is a bit more difficult to configure and use. As for Hudson, it is more simple to configure and use it. We developed our custom plugins for both CC and Hudson for the parts of our build cycle that they do not provide as is. As for plugin development, if you know / use Maven, Hudson is simpler too. But if you are not familiar to Maven, first you need to learn the basic usage of maven to successfully develop a Hudson plugin. But once you understand the basic usage of maven, plugin development, test and even debug is simpler in Hudson.
For your specific problem, I can think of a solution that makes use of Eclipse plugins as well. You can develop your own Eclipse plugin that for instance gets the psf files from a (configurable) folder, and use Eclipse internals to process these psf's. I mean you can use existing Eclipse source codes that takes a psf file, check-outs it's project definitions and compile these projects. This Eclipse plugin of yours may have a preference page (which you can access by Eclipse -> Window -> Preferences) and configure which folder it will use to look for psf files. Your Eclipse plugin should also have a way to start psf processing without user interaction. For this, you can use ipc to trigger your process. I mean your Eclipse plugin can listen for a port, and you can write another java application that will connect to your plugin through this port and trigger its process. As for CI part, you can use either CC or Hudson and use their external process execution support. If you are using Windows, you can write a bat file (for Linux sh file) that first launchs Eclipse that has your plugin installed. Then it launches your java application that will communicate with your Eclipse plugin to trigger your process. From your CI tool you will need to run your bat / sh file to trigger your process.