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I am a beginner. I am using Aptana Studio for PHP. Today, I also downloaded Eclipse. I notice most of the features and workings are similar. It seems one is built on the code-base of the other.
If so, what was the need for two similar Open Source IDEs on Java?
Aptana is built on Eclipse.
Eclipse is a general-purpose/Java-focused editor, whilst Aptana offers additional features which are targeted specifically at web development.
There are also other Eclipse plugins that also focus on web development, including the Web Tools Project from the Eclipse team.
Some people like Aptana, finding it a convenient mix of relevant tools. Others find Aptana too intrusive, and prefer to individually select their own plugins for JavaScript, CSS, XML, and so on.
what was the need for two similar
Open Source IDEs on Java.
Variety is the spice of life. There are plenty of other IDEs aside from just these two, and the same situation applies to most software, and tools/technologies in general.
Generally, different tools don't have the same focuses, and therefore provide varying benefits for different users.
This is especially true in the Open Source world, where users can easily customise and re-release products to work in the way they want.
You might wonder why the developers of Aptana built a "new" IDE based on Eclipse rather than simply working on Eclipse plugins.
The reason for this is that there used to be a paid-for Pro version of Aptana. This no longer exists however; you can get all the Aptana features now in the free Community Edition.
If you are searching for an free / open source IDE for PHP development i suggest Eclipse. If you can give some money to some company i suggest you give a try PHP Designer. PHP Designer supports as you guess PHP and debugging, also javascript framework like jQuery.
I have been using Aptana Studio 3 myself and I have to say that I like it so far. Which is odd because after using the IDEs I have used in the past I always ended up back with a text editor to write my code in.
I was curious about Eclipse as well and that is why I ended up at your question. I watched the Eclipse demo at the Eclipse site and I think I'll be sticking with Aptana. Just because it does appear to look and function very similar and I have decided that I do like Aptana. I was just searching to see if that was a certain feature or improvement Eclipse could offer.
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Closed 10 years ago.
I'm looking for a IDE that supports PHP/JAVA/CSS/HTML/JAVASCRIPT and possibly other languages.
Jetbrains IntelliJ and Sublime Text both seem like good choices.
However, since both require a payment for continued use, I'd like to know what the pros and cons of these two IDE's are, so as to get a better idea of which would be right for me. I'd like, not having to learn how to use both.
Thanks.
First off all, IntelliJ is an IDE, where as Sublime Text is a text editor. This difference means a lot when you want to work with languages like Java, that has a lot of syntactic bagages, but is quite productive with good IDE support.
In my experience an IDE focuses on adding support for much of the tooling involved around developing in a specific language, for instance build tools, debuggers, test runners etc. In addition an IDE is very useful when you work in statically typed languages, because the safe refactoring support you get is really productive.
A good text editor on the other hand focuses on manipulating text (although editors like Emacs is almost an OS in and of itself), and so thats where it's greatest strengths lies. Really investing to learn a good editor makes you look like a "text surgeon".
Some people claim that there is little value add with an IDE for working with dynamic languages, but after having used tools like WebStorm and RubyMine I disagree.
To generalize, an IDE provides you with a really productive environment out-of-the box, where as an editor usually needs to be customized to fit your specific work-flow. That also means that text-editors are more customizable, and can be configure to fit your specific needs more so than an IDE.
Personally I feel most productive in an IDE, but when I look at people really proficient in VIM or Emacs, I can't help wondering wether I should invest the time learning the tools.
I highly recomend watching the Play by Play and Destroy all Software screencasts for examples of developers that really have invested in learning and customizing their text editor.
I would definitely go with Jetbrains IntelliJ.
Sublime Text is pretty nice, but it doesn't have auto-completion for libraries and doesn't give a real code navigation functionality. It does have code completion based on the language and also records the typed instructions.
It doesn't support interactive debuggers.
It cannot be considered an IDE.
It's a beta product.
On the other hand, IntelliJ has the best of an full featured IDE including UML diagrams, local history/versioning (You don't need to keep saving your code, it does it automatically), GIT and SVN integration, an amazing error checking while you code, documentation support, hints for the language, and even spell checker for the docs, variables, classes and method names.
Both provides trial versions. Why not try it out and see by yourself?
You could also give a try to Netbeans and Eclipse.
Sublime Text is a text editor; only IntelliJ is an IDE, so there you go.
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I have to create a desktop application in java. I have experience in working with eclipse IDE for web development. Now for Desktop development whether i have to stick with eclipse or Netbeans.
Then, they are telling Eclipse RCP and Netbeans RCP, i heard only swing, Which framework can I use for desktop development.
Thanks.
In my experience, Eclipse is a perfectly cromulent IDE for desktop applications.
Is there any feature in particular you think you'll be missing which could be worth the inconvenience of re-training yourself with a different environment?
Both Eclipse and Netbeans provide services to utilize and design Swing components. Swing is the general window toolkit for Java. Netbeans and Eclipse are IDEs. If you have experience with Eclipse, then use Eclipse as it will be easier for you.
If you need to design a user interface, which is what I think you are trying to get at, then something like Visual Swing Designer might help.
Window Builder from google is the best plugin I have ever seen for ui design.
Personally I use netbeans for swing because its just how I learned.
You can take this chance to learn something new or stay with what you are formiliar with. Only you can make that choice though.
Take into account things like deadlines etc.
Personally I believe Swing would be the best option to go when you plan to develop desktop apps with java. When It come to IDE, as since eclipse is you are used to, better stick to that, for design swing interfaces you can use, some third party plugin of your choice. Number of designers available can be found here,
Best GUI designer for eclipse?
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I come from Linux and Windows programming is fairly new to me. On linux, I used to use vim and the command line and everything worked fine, even for large projects. However, on windows, the command line seems a lot more cumbersome and I hear that lots of devs use IDEs. The question is, what do I use (C++ here)? What does everyone usually use? VC++? I've read about Eclipse, how is the C++ support for it? I have used Netbeans for Java and I absolutely love it, is the C++ support upto par? Also, Netbeans seems to need make for windows, which is a pain to set up, is there a good alternative?
I don't think you can get an objective answer to a question as general as this. Different people have different experiences with different IDEs, and opinions are subjective.
My best advice is to be lazy. If the tools you are used to using do a good (or even half good) job, then don't change. The real point of an IDE is to get the job done effectively. Spending lots of time evaluating, setting up, going through the learning curves, switching back and forth doesn't get the job done.
If you are moving to doing development for windows, VC++ is a very good IDE, and arguably the best for pure windows development, I perfer eclipse though, mainly so that I have a single IDE that I use no matter what platform I'm on (Windows, Linux, and Mac).
The C++ support is execlent with the latest eclipse and CDT (C/C++ Development Tools) versions so that shouldn't be much of a problem.
I never have been that happy using Netbeans, but that is personal taste I think.
I generally use Eclipse for Java and love it, have had no problems. The intellisense is great and the automatic formatting works perfectly.
Currently I am using Visual Studio for C# and C++ but it leaves much to be desired in terms of performance, so I too am looking for a new solution there.
I thought Netbeans used Ant for build scripts, but I could be wrong. It's been a long time.
I use Visual Studio and find it's a fairly nice IDE with decent command line for build scripts, etc.
You might want to take a look at CodeBlocks. It is the IDE I used for C++ to make the transition. Worked well for me.
It depends. :-)
Are you moving to Windows "permanently", or just creating a new port? You can continue to use your old tools, if you work on several platforms.
Otherwise, VC++ is the native compiler for Windows. Obviously the one Microsoft uses for compiling Windows itself. The source code debugger is very well integrated with the rest of the IDE, and supports downloading debug info for the system binaries as well. Can be very useful.
For Java irrespective of the OS you are using, I highly recommend IDEA IntelliJ. There is also an open source "Community Edition" now which is quite cool.
i think if you used to use vim and command line in linux u'll find anything in Windows OS is so simple comparing with vim and command line so i thinkmit's so easy for u to convert to any IDE in Windows but i think it's better to use the native IDE for C++ by Microsoft itself not to use any other IDE from any another company because as i think the biggest advantage in Microsoft is its Support for its products and u can find easily tutorials and documentation easily
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Closed 12 years ago.
I've been creating Java programs in a text editor for more than a year and now I want to switch to any IDE for creating Java applications. May I know which IDE should I use first? Eclipse or NetBeans? Which is more preferable for a starter?
I've also done a little work in Visual Studio for creating C# applications. Will working on any IDE gonna be helpful for me?
I've always liked NetBeans for it's simplicity, however I use Eclipse as it has an official plugin for Android, provided by Google. Eclipse is very good but also somewhat complicated - I've used it for years and probably don't know what 60% of the settings or features even do.
So stick to NetBeans, unless you're doing Android development.
Eclipse is definitely closer to the text editor environment you're used to, while NetBeans is more geared towards interface development.
A stock installation of Eclipse is extremely lightweight relative to NetBeans. NetBeans is probably closer to Visual Studio. It depends on what kind of environment you prefer to work in.
If you enjoyed and preferred text editor coding, I'd go with Eclipse. If you preferred Visual Studio-style environments, I'd go with NetBeans.
If your computer is old, I'd go with Eclipse as well.
Eclipse is heavily developed by third parties (google, adobe), netBeans by oracle, so while doing some job with java i felt netBeans to be more "native" for java. Although i do most of the programming in other languages so i use eclipse, since you can bend it to any direction you want.
So, all in all, if you're planing just program in java and have done something with visual studio - use netbeans
When I was learning Java they had us using jGRASP, then had us using Netbeans. Netbeans and Eclipse are very similar if you are just starting.
This is the IDE I use http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/
Netbeans is more to Visual Studio, if you are working on GUI app or Jasper reports, Netbeans is also your choice. In all other cases - Eclipse. Eclipse has much more plug-ins, integrated with server-side environment and easier customizable
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I am on a Windows machine.
Want to practise Java for the web using: Tomcat, Java, JSP's, Spring Framework, and Hibernate.
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
(Silly question, but I am a newbie and don't want to get the wrong IDE version.)
You want to practise java for the web using: tomcat, java, jsp's, spring framework, etc.
then you should download the Enterprised version.
Personally I would prefer NetBeans. I use it frequently and I find it better(simpler rather) than Eclipse.
Who says you need Eclipse? NetBeans and IntelliJ are both good choices as well.
If you're a newbie to Java, I'd recommend staying away from Tomcat and JSP until you can write the core language comfortably. Likewise, stay away from Hibernate until you've mastered JDBC. Spring is very complex tool that should come last in your development.
My recommended order would be:
Base Java, including JDBC.
Tomcat, servlets, and JSPs using JSTL (allowing CRUD-based web apps)
Spring
UPDATE: It's great that you're already familiar with relational databases, ORM, objects, and DI. But I'd still recommend that you learn the language basics first. If you're really good at C#, it won't take you too long. There's an idiom to every language that you'll want to know to write well. Take the time to try and find it.
I'd recommend either the classic or IDE for java developers first, and then as you get familiar install the other plugins that you'd want/need. That way you'll learn the structure better. That being said, use Netbeans instead.
You should go for Eclipse Java EE but AFAIK it won't come with app servers bundled in. So you'll need to install those in addition to Eclipse and configure it.
However, you can go with Netbeans and it all comes pre bundled and pre configured and you can simply get started with writing code.
As a learner Eclipse would be a better.
You can follow this URL to download it:
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/galileo/SR1/eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-win32.zip.
Once you are comfortable with the basic functionality with Java, you can start with any
web Server or an application server.
Then you can implement the Framework.
Personally Eclipse is very friendly in use.
Don't go for any of these.
As you are working on windows platform I would suggest you to first try out JBuilder. Checkit out! It is better in all ways compared to Eclipse and Net Beans but to gather, because it gives a Visual way to build your GUIs!
I am a long time IntelliJ IDEA fan, but if I need to do AspectJ work, I turn to STS. I found it real easy to get started with Eclipse because it seems to contain the plugins I need already.