What is the "official" Java API for client/server or P2P communication? Java RMI? Some other networking API??
Is this official networking API the standard for both SE and EE?
I'm sure the answer is very context-specific, so let's take a look at a few instances:
You have 2 swing clients installed on 2 machines and connected to the same network (or the Internet), and you want either of them to send the other a primitive, such as the integer 4, or some POJO, like a "Widget" object
Same as #1 above, but between a Swing client and a fully-compliant Java EE back-end (implementing managed beans, app servers, the whole nine yards)
I don't have a specific application in mind, I'm just wondering what are the "norms" for client-client and client-server communication in the world of Java.
If being bound by Java isn't a problem, RMI is a pretty abstracted solution when it comes to the client and server solution "exchanging" data (especially when the data is Java classes which might be difficult/too much effort to represent as textual data). Just make sure your object implements Serializable and almost anything can be transmitted over the wire.
If this doesn't fit your bill and you want to drop down the raw networking stuff, the client-server socket framework Netty is a pretty good choice.
There's no such thing as the most official networking API in J2SE, all J2SE APIs are official in the sense they are supported by Sun (now Oracle).
That said, you should choose your API based on following criteria:
Do you (or your team) know how to use particular API;
How simple/complex is this API to use;
What throughput are you aiming for? For performance-sensitive applications you may be forced to use binary protocol. For the rest of cases, you can use text-based protocol.
For example, between two clients simple text-based protocol will suffice for passing POJOs, for example using Apache MINA or Google protocol buffers.
This will work between client and server as well.
Response to Zac's questions in comment:
Binary protocols performance gain comes from the fact you don't need to convert everything to text form and back -- you just can pass binary presentation of you application memory with minimal changes, like, in case of BSD Sockets API, converting from host byte-order to network byte-order. Unfortunately, I don't know details about how RMI/Java serialization processes objects, but I'm sure, it still much faster than passing all data in readable form;
Yes, MINA and protocol buffers have Java APIs. They just not part of Java SE bundle, you have to download them separately. By the way, MINA can use both binary and readable serialization, depending on how you use it.
You should define notion of 'good' somehow, for example, answering to questions I mentioned above. If you want to use objects over network, use RMI. If you don't, Netty or MINA will suffice, whatever you'll find easier to master.
For P2P, Sun at one point pushed JXTA pretty hard.
I wouldn't dare to use RMI for P2P communication.
rmi is pretty much the standard java to java protocol. it's built in and very simple to use. most j2ee backends also communicate using rmi, although that's not the only possibility.
J2SE the most common is probably RMI or raw sockets.
J2EE uses a messaging bus that everyone (servers and clients) subscribes to which is quite different from rmi style solutions (although at the lowest level an implementation may still rely on RMI). It helps automate redundancy and failover. If you need this functionality I believe it can be used in SE as well.
I haven't used J2EE for quite a while now, so this may have changed, but I doubt it. The messaging system was a core component of J2EE.
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I'm currently considering using java in one of my projects(for reasons unrelated to networking). At the moment I'm using C++ and a custom protocol built on top of UDP. My problem here is that while the added efficiency is nice for sending large amounts of realtime-data, I'd rather have something along the lines of RPCs for pure "logic actions" such as login. RPC's in C++ are hard to do though, since standard C++ itself has no notion of serialization.
In another answer, I found Java's RMI, which seems to be similar to RPCs, but I couldn't find how efficient/responsive it is, nor whether it could be plugged into my existing UDP socket, since I don't want to have two ports open on my server program.
Alternatively, since I think Java has serialization, I could implement RPC's myself, depending on how straightforward deserializing an arbitrary stream of objects in java is. Still, if this would require me to spend days on learning the intrinsics of java, this wouldn't be an option for me.
If you're interested in RPC, there is always XML-RPC and JSON-RPC, both of which have free/open-source C++ implementations. Unfortunately, most of my development has been in Java, so I can't speak to how usable or effective they are, but it might be something to look into since it sounds like you have already done some work in C++ and are comfortable with it. They also have Java implementations, so you might even be able to support both Java and C++ applications with XML-RPC or JSON-RPC, if you want to go down that route.
The only downside is that it looks like most of these use HTTP connections. One of the things you wanted to do was to reuse the existing connection. Now, I haven't looked at all of the implementations, but the two that I looked at might not meet that requirement. Worst case is that perhaps you can get some ideas. Best case if that there might be another implementation out there somewhere that does what you need and you now have a starting point to find it.
The use of RPCs as an abstraction do not preclude the use of UDP as the transport layer: RMI is an RPC abstraction that generally used TCP under the hood (last time I looked).
I'd suggest just coding up a Java layer to talk your UDP protocol: you can use any one of many libraries to do it and you don't have to discard all your existing work. If you want to wrap an RPC layer around your protocol no reason why you can't do that: create a login method that sends the login UDP packet and receives the appropriate response and returns it.
If it's a remotely serious project, you should probably take a look at Netty.
It's a great library for developing networked systems, has a lot of proven production usage and is well suited for things like TCP or UDP client-server communication. I wouldn't go reinventing this wheel unless you really have to :-)
As a bonus they have some good examples and documentation too.
I'm developing a Java application that consists of a server and a client (possibly multiple clients in future) which may run on different hosts.
For communication between these two I currently use a custom protocol which consists of JSON messages that are sent over network sockets and that are converted back to Java Bean objects on both sides. However the more complex the application gets I notice that this method doesn't meet my standards and is too complex.
I'm looking for a well established, possibly standardized alternative.
I've looked at Remote Method Invocation (RMI) but read that the protocol is slow (big network overhead).
The technology I'm looking for should be lightweight (protocol and library wise), robust, maybe support compression (big plus if it does!), maybe support encryption, well document and well established (e.g. an Apache project). It should be as easy as calling a method on a remote object with RMI but without its disadvantages.
What can you recommend?
Avro is an Apache project that is designed for cross-language RPC (see Thrift for its spiritual predecessor). It is fairly new (less than two years old), so it isn't as well-established as RMI, for example. You should still give it a chance, though; large projects like Cassandra are moving to Avro. Avro is also a sub-project under Hadoop and has been receiving healthy support from that community.
It designed to be fast and support multiple languages, so you will probably need to introduce another step during compilation in which you translate an Avro IDL file into Java, although it isn't strictly necessary. The rest is typical RPC.
One nice thing about Avro is that its transport layers are independent of how data is represented. For example, it comes with various "transceivers" (their base communication class) for raw sockets, HTTP, and even local intra-process calls. HTTPS and SASL transceivers can provide security.
For representing data, there are encoders and decoders of various types, although the default BinaryEncoder generally suffices since Hadoop, Cassandra, etc... focus on efficiency. There is also a JsonEncoder in case you find that useful.
This really all depends on what kind of compatibility you require between client and server. CORBA is a well established and standardized way of communicating between different languages, but it requires a bit more effort to use than Java RMI. If the clients are running from some external, untrusted source, then an HTTP based protocol makes more sense. If you follow a REST approach, then it becomes easier to scale out later as you need to add more servers.
If both client and server are Java, and they are running within a trusted network, RMI meets your requirements for being "well established". Performance overhead of RMI is exaggerated, but very early versions did not pool connections.
If you're willing to toss away both "well established" and "standardized", you can use Dirmi as a substitute for RMI. It's faster, easier, has more features, and it doesn't have the firewall problems RMI has. Like RMI, it supports TLS (encryption), but neither supports built-in compression.
Whatever you choose, beware of lock-in. Try to design your server such that the remote access layer is a thin layer over the core code. This allows you to easily support multiple protocols, perhaps at the same time.
Mybe CORBA?
Would you consider HTTP/REST?
If so, you can leverage something like a Tomcat/Spring, and still support all the requirements you listed ( robust, lightweight, well documented, well established )
The RPC based protocols are simply antiquated.
Seriously, unless you're doing a web app that already requires the web baggage, you really do want RMI or, even better, CORBA. I recommend JacORB (www.jacorb.org).
Ignore general claims of slow/fast and perform your own performance tests.
Keep in mind that a software project is successful because it performs the useful function for which it was designed and intended, not because it uses the latest cool buzzword tech.
Good luck.
Apache MINA library for client-server communication and EJB3 will suit best
Is it possible to communicate with non java entity sing RMI protocol
What is special about RMI IIOP?
Thx
It's technically possible. You will need to implement a RMI server on the non-java side.
I would not recommend it though. Try exploring the possibility of using WebServices, which is commonly used for that: communicating entities from (probably) different platforms.
RMI is protocol supposed to be purely used by Java applications. It put some requirements on communicating which depends on Java implementation (e.g. serialization). On the other hand RMI IIOP is protocol which is used by EJB implementation in order to add more functionality to communication (e.g. transaction context propagation).
IIOP is originally from CORBA and could be used to communicate with components written in other languages.
I wouldn't go Web Services route if you do need to use features available to IIOP. Unless, of course you'd use respective WS-* specifications to get them.
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I don't think you could do this easily.
As an alternative to Java-RMI I would recommend XML-RPC.
You can then communicate with Python, C++, Objective-C, Erlang, Groovy, Java, JavaScript, PHP and many more.
On the java side you can use the Apache XML-RPC library.
Pro: many implementations for different languages
Con: XML-RPC does know primitives and base64 encoded binaries. They will not handle your complex Java objects but give you a Map. You need to map them to your Objects by yourself.---
I would like to ask for some ideas regarding a scenario like this:
1) we need to build up a real time application that runs on a client. Some sort of stock trading functionality, updates pushed to few clients in different geo locations every 25 secs.
2) the data is collected and pre-processed on the server side (Glassfish/Java)
We have been discussing options and narrowed down 2 options:
1) WPF on the client
2) Swing (we previously evaluated JavaFX)
What are your thoughts on:
1) easiness/speed of development of an "medium" complex client application in Swing vs. WPF
2) communication between WPF and an app server. If we would have a monolithic solution (Java), there are more options for hight throughput data exchange like Java Messaging, without going through some .NET to Java bridges or sending data across via XML, webservices etc.
Any thoughts welcome.
Thank you
Swing vs WPF
I've done extensive work using both Swing and WPF. Swing is at least a whole generation behind WPF. There really is no comparison. WPF's data binding and templates make all the difference. You will save a lot of time and money, and end up with a much better user experience if you use WPF.
NET Framework connection to Java back end
Regarding using NET Framework on the front end against a Java back end: It is extremely easy to do and will generally perform as well as a pure Java solution. The exception would be if your main bottleneck is network bandwidth and you are serializing complex trees of objects.
As itowlson noted, WCF doesn't talk Java's proprietary binary protocols, but there are still a lot of choices that can be used to talk to Java: XML, JSON, text (REST). I generally recommend good old-fashioned XML Web Services. It takes about two minutes to set up WCF to talk to a simple Java web service.
XML Serialization typically only adds 5-10% to network bandwidth over binary, so unless you have a lot of complex data and your pipe is very tight, I would just use WPF/WCF talking directly to Java on the back end. If you do have lots of data and a tiny pipe, you still want the WPF front end because it is so much better than Swing, but you might consider using the WCF binary formatter over the wire and doing the conversion on the server.
Regarding communication between WPF and an application server, you can use all of .NET's messaging facilities, specifically including Windows Communication Foundation. However, WCF does not have out-of-the-box support for binary messaging to Java (see Does WCF play well with Java? for discouraging info) so you would need to use XML, a custom transport that could be supported on both ends (such as MQ) or a bridge.
(Can't help with the comparison of WPF vs. Swing, as I have no experience of Swing.)
I am implementing a website using PHP for the front end and a Java service as the back end. The two parts are as follows:
PHP front end listens to http requests and interacts with the database.
The Java back end run continuously and responds to calls from the front end.
More specifically, the back end is a daemon that connects and maintain the link to several IM services (AOL, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber...).
Both of the layers will be deployed on the same system (a CentOS box, I suppose) and introducing a middle layer (for instance: using XML-RPC) will reduce the performance (the resource is also rather limited).
Question: Is there a way to link the two layers directly? (no more web services in between)
Since this is communication between two separate running processes, a "direct" call (as in JNI) is not possible. The easiest ways to do such interprocess communcation are probably named pipes and network sockets. In both cases, you'll have to define a communication protocol and implement it on both sides. Using a standard protocol such as XML-RPC makes this easier, but is not strictly necessary.
There are generally four patterns for application integration:
via Filesystem, ie. one producers writes data to a directory monitored by the consumer
via Database, ie. two applications share a schema or table and use it to swap data
via RMI/RPC/web service/any blocking, sync call from one app to another. For PHP to Java you can pick from the various integration libraries listed above, or use some web services standards like SOAP.
via messaging/any non-blocking, async operation where one app sends a message to another app.
Each of these patterns has pros and cons, but a good rule of thumb is to pick the one with the loosest coupling that you can get away with. For example, if you selected #4 your Java app could crash without also taking down your PHP app.
I'd suggest before looking at specific libraries or technologies listed in the answers here that you pick the right pattern for you, then investigate your specific options.
I have tried PHP-Java bridge(php-java-bridge.sourceforge.net/pjb/) and it works quite well. Basically, we need to run a jar file (JavaBridge.jar) which listens on port(there are several options available like Local socket, 8080 port and so on). Your java class files must be availabe to the JavaBridge in the classpath. You need to include a file Java.inc in your php and you can access the Java classes.
Sure, there are lots of ways, but you said about the limited resource...
IMHO define your own lightweight RPC-like protocol and use sockets on TCP/IP to communicate. Actually in this case there's no need to use full advantages of RPC etc... You need only to define API for this particular case and implement it on both sides. In this case you can serialize your packets to quite small. You can even assign a kind of GUIDs to your remote methods and use them to save the traffic and speed-up your intercommunication.
The advantage of sockets usage is that your solution will be pretty scalable.
You could try the PHP/Java integration.
Also, if the communication is one-way (something like "sendmail for IM"), you could write out the PHP requests to a file and monitor that in your Java app.
I was also faced with this problem recently. The Resin solution above is actually a complete re-write of PHP in Java along the lines of JRuby, Jython and Rhino. It is called Quercus. But I'm guessing for you as it was for me, tossing out your Apache/PHP setup isn't really an option.
And there are more problems with Quercus besides: the free version is GPL, which is tricky if you're developing commercial software (though not as tricky as Resin would like you to believe (but IANAL)) and on top of that the free version doesn't support compiling to byte code, so its basically an interpreter written in Java.
What I decided on in the end was to just exchange simple messages over HTTP. I used PHP's json_encode()/json_decode() and Java's json-lib to encode the messages in JSON (simple, text-based, good match for data model).
Another interesting and light-weight option would be to have Java generate PHP code and then use PHP include() directive to fetch that over HTTP and execute it. I haven't tried this though.
If its the actual HTTP calls you're concerned about (for performance), neither of these solutions will help there. All I can say is that I haven't had problems with the PHP and Java on the same LAN. My feeling is that it won't be a problem for the vast majority of applications as long as you keep your RPC calls fairly course-grained (which you really should do anyway).
Sorry, this is a bit of a quick answer but: i heard the Resin app server has support for integrating java and PHP.
They claim they can smash php and java together: http://www.caucho.com/resin-3.0/quercus/
I've used resin for serving J2ee applications, but not for its PHP support.
I'd be interested to hear of such adventures.
Why not use web service?
Make a Java layer and put a ws access(Axis, SpringWS, etc...) and the Php access the Java layer using one ws client.
I think it's simple and useful.
I've come across this page which introduces a means to link the two layers. However, it still requires a middle layer (TCP/IP). Moreover, other services may exploit the Java service as well because it accepts all incoming connections.
http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/20509
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