Is there a way to run a Java command line in a web page along the lines of this Ruby web page:
http://tryruby.org/levels/1/challenges/0
The aim is to be able to give complete newbies a very simple introduction to the language without having to worry about IDEs, compilation, etc.
Well, since Java is a compiled language and has no REPL, there is no such "command line". But I can think of theoretically possible ways to implement the idea.
An Applet might be not really a solution. I don't know how far you can get with limited permissions. Security concerns might allow you to only operate in a sandbox and / or not to compile / execute code.
A Java WebStart application might have such permissions. It would be a similar task to provide a slim IDE. Or making Bluej run from WebStart.
Provide a web application that simply files a request to a server which compiles and executes the code and returns the result. I assume (I'm not sure) many online REPL work like this. (By skimming the JavaScript of try python I think it files AJAX requests) But then there's still a security concern, like what if a programm begins to randomly remove files? Google Appengine has advanced security mechanisms to prevent missuse. To implement them for "try java" it would require advanced effort.
Next idea is to limit everything down to a subset of the Java language. For providing a small introduction, a little tutorial with predefined answers and maybe a bit basic math you could write some JavaScript on the client side to decide wether the learner's answers are correct or not.
Don't forget that web-based IDEs are currently developed, for instance Eclipse Orion. Maybe you could watch these projects evolve and use them for such purpose. Currently I've only seen JavaScript code edited in there, and executing JS is one of the webbrowsers natural capabilities. I don't know which programming languages they are going to support or if code execution will be supported.
But usually java needs to be compiled to be useful to a JVM. So I am not sure you can do anything like that that would be useful for java. The key difference is in the interpreted (Ruby) vs compiled (java) implementation.
See What's the difference between compiled and interpreted language?
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Can I make a Java program to generate another java application at runtime.
I want to make a "installer" program, which takes user input and generates an application as per user requirement, instead of just configuring the pre-built application according to the user needs.
I came across this solution - how to compile & run java program in another java program?, but I don't want to make clients install JDK on there computer.
Dynamically create table and Java classes at runtime -
which also need JDK, but I got a work around:
ToolProvider.getSystemJavaCompiler() returns null - usable with only JRE installed?
Can I make a complete application using above methods?
Is it a bad idea to generate such program?
Can I make Spring and Hibernate applications like that?
Or is there any existing framework for doing so?
(if possible it should create tables in db and generate html files as well. I came across http://velocity.apache.org/, so is it possible to generate java code using that.)
Your goal doesn't make a lot of sense from a practical perspective. I hope that my answer will help you to understand why.
Can I make a java program to generate another java application at runtime.
Yes you can. But it is a lot of work, especially if the application if complicated.
I want to make a "installer" program, which takes user input and generate an application as per user requirement, instead of just configuring the pre-build application according to the user needs.
That is possible ... in theory.
The problem is that you have to write a program that is capable of reading and understanding the user's requirements, and can then converting those requirements into code. Normally ... this is what a programmer does. Writing a program to do what a programmer does is not practical. (My guess is that it is 20 or more years beyond the "state of the art" of artificial intelligence to do such a thing.)
Now if the problem domain was sufficiently restricted, and the requirements were tightly specified in an unambiguous notation, then it might be feasible to do this. However, benefits of generating a program rather than configuring an existing one (based on the same requirement notation) are pretty small. And probably not worth the effort.
... but I don't want to make clients install JDK on their computer.
If you are generating Java programs you need a Java compiler. So if you insist on using a JRE (in Java 8), you need to include a 3rd party Java compiler in your application.
However, for Java 9 onward this is moot:
Oracle no longer provides JRE distributions for Java 9+ so you would need to get your client to use a 3rd-party source for their JRE.
You could (should) be using the Java 9+ jlink utility to produce a custom JRE for you application, and that can include the standard Java compiler.
If you are trying to generate code at the bytecode level, your problem is immediately ten times harder.
Sorry, I am using Java 8
Are you aware that Java 8 is "end of life" for commercial use? That is likely to affect your clients.
Can I make a complete application using above methods?
Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on the problem domain. The more complicated it is, and the more diverse / general the requirements, the harder it will be.
Is it a bad idea to generate such program?
Yes. It is a bad idea. It is a lot more work than writing an application that is configured in the conventional way. (Noting that the configuration could include writing plugins in Java, rules in some scripting language, and so on.)
I would advise only generating source code or bytecodes if you already have a conventional application with most / all of the required functionality that you can use as a prototype for the generated generated code. (If you can't write such a prototype by hand, then writing a generator that will create one is not realistic.)
And even when it is feasible, I would question the wisdom of building a generator. There doesn't seem to be a significant pay-off for the extra effort. (For example, where is the benefit for the end user?)
Can I make spring and hibernate application like that?
I don't see why you couldn't generate such an application. But see 1) and 2).
Or is there any existing frameworks for doing so?
There are frameworks that could be used in some cases:
Templating frameworks like Velocity1 can be used to generate Java source code.
Bytecode engineering frameworks could be used to generate code directly.
1 - Indeed, I have used Velocity for Java source code generation. It worked, though I'm not convinced it was an ideal solution.
Sure you can. You can also leverage a project like GraalVM to generate native binaries for a given platform.
However, it is a lot of work, and the end result won't probably be as useful as you think. Any use case you have in mind will probably be a lot better served by an app that you just configure to do different tasks, so your efforts are probably best spent in that direction.
I have been working on a project alone for more than two years for a company. The project is a really big one using rxtx to communicate with a hardware device. I used Java 8 and JAVAFX for the UI. Now it is almost finished and I am starting to search how to deliver the end user application that the company will distribute over its clients.
The problem is that the company I am working with wants the code to be non reachable when the software is between final clients hands because the Java code contains some extremely sensitive information that could have very bad consequences for the company if final clients happened to know them. The clients can literally perform actions they don’t have the right to perform.
So after searching (a lot) and thinking relatively to my case, I understood that giving a JAR obfuscated isn’t the solution. I then tried to generate a JAR and then transform it to an EXE but all I succeeded on was wrapping the JAR into EXE which does not prevent extracting the JAR and then seeing all the code easily. Finally, I found that I should use AoT compilation like GCJ compiler to produce native binary exe from my Java code but here I am stuck because after watching videos and reading articles etc I didn’t manage to find a clear way to produce the native binary exe.
I am now confused since I don’t know if I am on the right path and good direction or if I am totally wrong and there is another way of protecting the code (at least from non professional hackers, I understand that it is not possible to make it 100% safe but I am just searching for a reasonable and good way). How should I manage this final step of my work?
I currently work for a company that has code that we don't want anyone to have access to for the security of our clients and-- less important-- for legal reasons. ;-)
One possible solution you could look into would be to rewrite the code you deem most sensitive into a C/C++ library. It would be possible to compile this into a .so/.dll/.dylib file for the respective OSs and it would make it difficult, not entirely impossible, but difficult to decompile.
The trouble would come from learning how to access native code from Java as much of the documentation is not helpful or just simply nonexistent. This would utilize the Java Native Interface (JNI) which allows Java to, well, interface with the native (compiled C/C++) code. This would make it possible to create a Jar file that would effectively become a Java library for you to access throughout the rest of your project. The native code, however will still need to be loaded at runtime, but that's apart of learning how JNI works. A helpful link I found for JNI is http://jnicookbook.owsiak.org/ (for as long as it's still a functional link).
One of our clients here where I work has a project written in Java and needed to implement our code that is unfortunately all written in C. So we needed a way to access this C/C++ code from Java. This is the way we went about solving this issue without rewriting our code in Java. But we had the benefit (?) of having already written our code in C.
This solution to write a bunch of extra code last minute in another language that I may or may not be familiar with doesn't sound like particularly fun time.
I would be curious to learn what possible problems others might see with this solution.
My JEE app runs under tomee and allows the user to write his/her own scripts and run from a web gui, but I'd like to restrict certain operations such as System.exit(1) for example.
A discussion related to this issue can be found in the beanshell2 forum - check this out - http://code.google.com/p/beanshell2/issues/detail?id=15
Any scriptable language that works from within the JVM is OK, but I need this level of control. My first attempt was using beanshell, but it seems, as we can see from the discussion above, that this is not an option.
I would like to avoid more esoteric languages since the end user is technical, but I can't ask him/her to learn an unknown programming language just to write a script :-) [or maybe I can, if I don't find any useful option for this]
How can I get that? Groovy? Any other JVM-based script language maybe?
Groovy has a lot of power in CompilerConfiguration. You can choose the usable imports and a lot of other stuff. Allowed stuff can be whitelisted or blacklisted using SecureASTCustomizer
I used Rhino a long time ago. It allows run JavaScript into a Java App (or server side). You will probably need to manage security issues manually.
Not sure this is what you are looking for, but it can help: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Rhino
Hi all this is my post on stackoverflow.
I am normally a lurker and find everything I need without posting but was drawing some blanks when trying to picture how this works. Maybe if someone can provide some insight I would greatly appreciate it.
So I understand the software development cycle and know a decent amount about code
(c++ and Java, and visual basic, I am a CIS major with a CS minor in my last year). I can write some programs in elipse using Java and I can even make some basic GUI components in eclipse using Java.
Now onto my 3 part question: I understand one could make a .jar from several .java files and distribute it, but while thinking about a common program like say yahoo messenger (just as an example) I came to the following three part question:
First, being could you write a program like yahoo messenger in just eclipse using Java or would you need other tools like other languages and other development environments, how does the project go from start to finish? (I think I am kind of lost here because I have only wrote command line and simple GUI applications).
Second, Say it was easier to create a feature in yahoo messenger using a different language, how can one write one program in more than one language? Say for example you wanted to write some code in python or c++ and your the majority of your code was in Java, ie your main method is java and you are compiling using JVM. (assuming you cant just stick python or c++ code in a java program) I did some Googling around and saw some things about linking the compiler and including native code to include other language code in a Java project. Links to other reading material is acceptable too if the explanation is too long.
Third- How does deployment work? Say I am done writing the code for my program and want to turn it into an .exe (for windows users) and stick it on my site for people to download. I know windows comes built in with an iexpress utility to create .exe's. Besides distributing a .jar how would one go about turning source into an exe? Thanks again for all your input and time. I am a beginner and trying to wrap my head around these concepts. The answers can be provided in a technical realm or just conceptual either is greatly appreciated.
-Mark
1) I most cases you can write your program in java without needing any other programming language. There are rather rare cases where you need to call a dll from java to interface with some proprietary program, for this you would need to use JNI and C or C++. A perhaps more common case for using multiple languages is for adding scriptability to your application. For example, my company offers a server/client application that is scriptable by users using Groovy, but the server and the rich client itself are written in Java only.
2) The integration of java and another programming language depends on the other language. Integrating Groovy is easy, and I think integrating Python (using JPython) or Ruby (using JRuby) is fairly easy. But it is an effort (not to mention the mental stress of programming in different languages) and I would not recommend doing that unless there's a specific requirement for this.
3) As always, there are several options. See how-can-i-convert-my-java-program-to-an-exe-file for creating a windows executable. Or you can create windows installer using e.g. NSIS. Or use Java Web Start.
If the intent behind this question is getting an idea how some big java rich-client (desktop) applications are written and deployed, I recommend the Eclipse RCP book. This book will walk you through the development and deployment of an XMPP/Jabber messenger client using the Eclipse RCP framework. Be aware though that there is no one true way of creating a big application and other java application frameworks do things differently.
Several IM clients are written in Java, though I would hazard a guess that the mainstream ones would be mostly written in C, C++ or (on the Mac) Objective-C.
Writing the one program in multiple languages has numerous challenges, and the nature of the challenges varies depending on the combination of languages you want to use. In many cases, you will probably not have much luck combining more than two languages. One set of impedance problems is bad enough, three is an almost guaranteed disaster.
You can avoid these problems by splitting a single application across multiple programs, each of which is written in a single language and communicates with the other programs via some kind of IPC mechanism.
Creating an "exe" is also a very language-specific concern. For instance, Java, C#, C/C++, and Python all have radically different deployment stories.
Say I am done writing the code for my program and want to turn it into an .exe (for windows users) and stick it on my site for people to download.
In that case, I'd say you were foolish. ;)
Java Web Start is a better option for deploying a Java based rich client app. from a web site. JWS works for any platform with Java.
I'm performing a thought-experiment which, judging by other questions, isn't so novel after all, but I think I'll proceed anyway. I want to sandbox a user-supplied server-side script by, among other things, confining it to a virtual filesystem and setting the root directory, and further mapping certain virtual directories to specific physical ones, inconsistent with the actual directory structure. For example (using PHP string parsing), my preconception is "~$user/..." but the less-semantic "/$user/..." would work fine too; either might map to "users/$user/$script_name/data/...". Yes, under certain circumstances multiple users can be affected by the script.
Since this is a thought-experiment and I therefore don't consider the implementation language an issue, I'm expecting to do it on my localhost and would rather use PHP than install something else. (I also have Python 2 available, and could get mod_wsgi to use it instead. I'd install Python 3 if I had to.) Ideally, I wish a PEAR module would do this - but from what I can see none does.
I tried and failed to find a server module, such as SSJS, that could accomplish this. The closest things to answers that I found were << Looking for a locked down script interpreter >> and << Allowing users to script inline, what inline scripting engines are there for either .net or java? >>. I'll move to Java or, less likely, Mono if I absolutely have to, but I'm not enthusiastic to the idea. (I'm extremely rusty on Java, and have hardly used it server-side at all. Mono is totally alien to me.)
Since they're the most promising options so far, I also wonder how extensive the sandboxing facilities are in Java and Mono. For example, can they do virtual filesystems? Entering APIs from Java user-code into the engine? Are any standard APIs offered to the script, and if so can they be removed?
Clarification
I don't really care which way this goes, but I was actually expecting Java/Mono to be the implementation platform rather than the sandboxed one, based on the questions & answers I linked. I'm a little surprised to see that flipped in the answers, but either way works.
The Java sandbox (in the way implemented for browser applets) does not offer file access at all.
In general, the Java security model has only "allow or not allow" decisions for the security manager in most cases.
Of course you could design another API instead of the normal File IO api (and similar), and have your sandboxed script access then this way (and forbid the normal way by a security manager). (I suppose some of this is already implemented in the Java application engines on the market, but I do know about nothing about this).
I have never tried to truly sandbox Mono but this might give you a starting point:
http://www.mono-project.com/MonoSandbox
File system access in the sandbox is touched on in that link.
Popular choices for Mono scripting seem to be Boo and Python. Both ship with the latest version of Mono (2.10). Visual Basic, Ruby and F# (OCaml-ish) do as well.
The Mono C# compiler can be easily embedded as a service for scripting. Here is a nice article about it.
If you are partial to PHP, you should check out Phalanger.
There are many other choices. There are new .NET based scripting languages all the time. I came across this one earlier today.