Generics and raw types - java

I wrote some code using generics and I got into the following situation I didn't manage to understand:
I have the interface IpRange, and the following class:
public class Scope<IpRange<T extends IP>> {
List<IpRange<T>> rangesList;
public List<IpRange<T>> getRangesList() {return rangesList;}
}
Now from some test class if i write the following:
Scope<Ipv4> myScope = new Scope<Ipv4>();
scope.getRangesList().get(0)
I'm getting object of IpRange type, but if I'm using a raw type and doing this:
Scope myScope = new Scope();
scope.getRangesList().get(0)
I'm getting Object, and I can't use the ipRange methods unless i explicitly cast it to Range.
If it would have been List<T> i get it, since i used raw type the compiler has no way to know what is the actual type of the list items, but in this case it will be always IpRange type, so why I'm not getting Object?
The thing is that when I'm creating the scope I don't necessarily know the actual range type. Consider this constructor: public Scope(String rangeStringList); for all I know, the string could be "16.59.60.80" or "fe80::10d9:159:f:fffa%". But what I do know is that I passed some IpRange object to the compiler and I would expect to be able to use this interface whether this is ipv4 or ipv6. And since the compiler can know for sure that this is ipRange even if I used row type, i wonder why java chose to do it this way

People have pointed out that all generic type information is stripped when using raw types, and hinted that this is to do with backwards compatibility. I imagine this might not be satisfactory without an explanation, so I'll try to explain how such a problem might be encountered with code like yours.
First of all, imagine the code you have written there is part of an old library, and you're in the process of upgrading the library by adding generics. Perhaps it's a popular library and lots of people have used the old code.
Someone may have done something like this using the classes from your library:
private void someMethod(Scope scope, Object object) {
scope.getRangesList().add(object);
}
Now, looking at this we know that Object might not be of the type IpRange, but this is a private method, so let's assume that type checking is effectively performed by whatever methods call someMethod. This might not be good code, but without generics it does compile and it might work just fine.
Imagine that the person who wrote this upgraded to the new version of your library for some new features or unrealted bug fixes, along with this they now have access to more type safety with your generic classes. They might not want to use it, though, too much legacy like the extract above code using raw types.
What you are effectively suggesting is that even though 'scope' is a raw type, the List returned from getRangesList() must always be of type List<IpRange<? extends IP>>, so the compiler should notice this.
If this were the case though, the legacy code above which adds an Object to the list will no longer compile without being edited. This is one way backwards compatibility would be broken without disregarding all available generic type information for raw types.

Yes, if you use raw types, all generics are "turned off" in the rest of that method, and all generic types become raw types instead, even if they would otherwise not be affected by the missing generic parameter of the raw type.

If you use a raw type, all generic type information is stripped from the class, including static methods if called on the instance.
The reason this was done was for backward compatibility with java 1.4.

Related

Using Raw types to dynamically apply type parameters for a reflected subclass

IMPORTANT:
the code I currently have Is working per my expectations. It does what I want it to do. My Question is about wether the WAY in which I have made it work is wrong. The reason I am asking this is because I've seen plenty of stack overflow results about raw types and how they should basically NEVER be used.
What I'm doing and Why I used raw types
Currently I am dynamically creating a concrete subclass of a generic interface where the interface takes in parameters when the class is constructed. When I make an instance of this class and use its returned object to call various methods, I use raw types because it works for what I'm trying to do. Here is an example in my functioning code where the raw types are used. This code is in top down order i.e. between code blocks there is no code.
Loading properties file
Properties prop = new Properties();
try {
prop.load(ObjectFactory.class.getResourceAsStream("config.properties"));
This is the File parser that implements FileParserImplementation and takes in the data and puts it into an array. This code gets the Class type and then makes an instance of that type dynamically.
Class<? extends FileParserImplementation> parser = null;
parser = Class.forName(prop.getProperty("FileParserImplementation")).asSubclass(FileParserImplementation.class);
FileParserImplementation ParserInstance = (FileParserImplementation) parser.getDeclaredConstructors()[0].newInstance();
These two classes and their instances are the two seperate DataParsers implementing DataParserImplementation. These take in the array of Strings that the FileParser gives and creates objects/manipulates the data into whatever is needed. It puts out a Collection of this data. The Fileparser dependency is passed in through constructor injection. This can be configured through the properties file at runtime.
Class<? extends DataParserImplementation> dataset1 = Class.forName(prop.getProperty("DataParserImplementation_1")).asSubclass(DataParserImplementation.class);
Class<? extends DataParserImplementation> dataset2 = Class.forName(prop.getProperty("DataParserImplementation_2")).asSubclass(DataParserImplementation.class);
DataParserImplementation Dataset1Instance = (DataParserImplementation) dataset1.getDeclaredConstructors()[0].newInstance(ParserInstance);
DataParserImplementation Dataset2Instance = (DataParserImplementation) dataset2.getDeclaredConstructors()[0].newInstance(ParserInstance);
This is the Crossreferencer class that implements CrossReferencerImplementation. It takes in the two datasets and Cross references them In whatever way is desired by the actual concrete reflected class. This also can be configured at runtime. It outputs a Map in this main.
The map serves as the final collection for the data (I might change that later).
Class<? extends CrossReferenceImplementation> crossreferencer = Class.forName(prop.getProperty("CrossReferenceImplementation")).asSubclass(CrossReferenceImplementation.class);
CrossReferenceImplementation crossReferencerInstance =
(CrossReferenceImplementation) crossreferencer.getDeclaredConstructors()[0].newInstance();
Getting the Map result from calling a method on our reflected instance. Then the contents of this map are printed out. currently it seems the map parameters are gotten as well because the Objects that are inside the map are properly using their toString methods when reflectiveFinalMap.get(key).toString() is called.
This leads me to believe it works as I intend.
Map reflectiveFinalMap = (Map)
crossReferencerInstance.CrossReference(Dataset1Instance.Parse(), Dataset2Instance.Parse());
for (Object key:reflectiveFinalMap.keySet()) {
System.out.println(key + " { " +
reflectiveFinalMap.get(key).toString() + " }");
}
return reflectiveFinalMap;
}
//catch block goes here
Notice that each time I reflectively create an instance of a class that implements one of my interfaces, I use the interface as the raw type. My Hope is that the reflection then sees the parameterized type of this raw type when it creates the concrete subclass, because thats where the parameter types are actually specified. The point is to let any class that implements those interfaces be generic to the point where they can take in just about anything and return just about anything.
Things I tried to not use raw types.
I've tried to actually obtain the parameterized type of CrossReferenceImplementation in the reflected crossreferencer Class that I get right now by calling
Class arrayparametertype = (Class)((ParameterizedType)crossreferencer.getClass().getGenericSuperclass()).getActualTypeArguments()[0];
And then I tried to pass in that arrayparameter when creating an instance of crossreferencer like this:
CrossReferenceImplementation crossReferencer = (CrossReferenceImplementation<<arrayparametertype>>) crossreferencer.getDeclaredConstructors()[0].newInstance();
That didn't work since variable parameter types apparently aren't a thing.
I tried to manually specify the specific parameter of the concrete reflected class(I DON'T want this anyway because it breaks the whole point of reflection here, decoupling the Classes from each other by being able to use anythng that implements the appropriate interface). This caused this warning to appear and the code to not actually run the methods it was supposed to:
//how the parameters were specified. Messy and breaks the reflection.
CrossReferenceImplementation<Map<String, SalesRep>,Map<String, SalesRep>,Map<String, SalesRep>> crossReferencer = (CrossReferenceImplementation) crossreferencer.getDeclaredConstructors()[0].newInstance();
//where the warning occured
Map reflectiveFinalMap = (Map) crossReferencer.CrossReference(Dataset1.Parse(), Dataset2.Parse());
The Warning:
"Dataset1 has raw type so result of Parse is erased".
Note that SalesRep here is the object in which the data is held as fields of that object. This object gets manipulated and put into various collections. It too is accessed via reflection in the many methods of DataParserImplementations
A similar error message and problem occured when specifying the parameter type of the Map (AGAIN I DON'T want this because it makes the reflection pointless I want the map return result to be generic and be specified by the implementing class).
//where the parameterized type was specified
Map reflectiveFinalMap = (Map<String,SalesRep>) crossReferencer.CrossReference(Dataset1.Parse(), Dataset2.Parse());
When specifying the actual parameterized type of the map result the error message was:
"crossReferencer has raw type so result of CrossReference is erased".
Running the code did indeed confirm for me that .CrossReference method's results were erased while everything else ran fine.
What internet searches I tried before asking here
So I used the raw types for both operations As can be seen in the main code and everything worked fine. But I have seen so much "Don't use raw types". And this is why I ask: Is this an appropriate use of raw types? Should I do it a different way that DOESN'T break the reflection? It breaks the reflection because manually specifying the type parameter not only makes my code not run, it also means ONLY that concrete class can be used. I reflected so that I could use anything that implements the generic interface. I don't want to only be able to use specific concrete instances. I've tried searching stack overflow for whats in my title and other similar things. I think this might be related to type erasure but I'm honestly not sure of that. Nothing else really addressed this problem because nothing talked about generics, parameterized types and reflection all at once (the crux of my problem). I have been told generics and reflection don't play well together but this code works anyways and works the way I want it to. It works well. I just want to make sure I'm not doing something TERRIBLY wrong.
The Goal.
To gain an Understanding of my current usage of raw types so I know I'm doing it the right way. By 'Right' I mean the opposite of what I define as the 'Wrong' Way below. An example of what 'Understanding' I seek is:
To understand why puesdo code along the lines of:
ConcreteClass forname(myPropertiesFileObject.get(ConcreteClassname)) as subClass of (MyGenericInterface);
MyRAWGenericInterfaceType ConcreteClassInstance = (MyRAWGenericInterfaceType) ConcreteClass.newInstance( Insert generic Type constructor arguments here);
RAWCollectionType someCollection = RAWCollectionType concreteClassInstance.CallingAMethod(Insert generic Type method arguments here);
Uses Raw types where RAW is contained in the Interface or collection type name. This is as opposed to doing it in some way that doesn't use raw types but doesn't break the point of the reflection, to decouple the interactions between these classes. Specifying the parameters with hard code would 'break the reflection' in this case. Additionally I'd like to understand Why specifying parameters (even if I know thats not what I'm going to do) for these RAW types in the pusedocode above causes the errors listed above in the question, Namely why is the result of CallingAMethod erased when supplying the actual parameters to the RAWCollectionType that the method returns? The root problem is that when I supply type parameters to RAWCollectionType when I declare it, it refuses to be updated by what CallingAMethod returns and I Don't Understand Why. It takes the return value, but if the body of the method CallingAMethod has the returned value passed in as an argument, updated inside the method and then returned, the return that I receive doesn't have the updates. CallingAMethod in this example would be like if I hada list like:
[1,2,3]
and inside the method I had something like:
foreach(thing in list){
thing += 1
}
and then I returned the list, the return I'd get when specifying parameters would be [1,2,3] and when using raw types it would be [2,3,4] like I desire. I'm asking this because I've heard bad things about using raw types.
Additionally I want to make sure that my use of raw types is not horribly wrong and that it works because it's SUPPOSED to work. Maybe I've just gotten good at the whole reflection and generics thing and found a valid use for raw types, or I could be doing something so horrible it warrants my arrest. Thats what i intend to find out. To clarify, by wrong I mean:
bad design (should use a different way to call my methods reflectively and also use reflective classes that use generic interfaces)
inefficient design(time complexity wise, code line wise or maintainability wise)
there is a better way, you shouldn't even be doing this in the first place
If any of those reasons or something I missed popped out when you read this code then TELL ME. Otherwise please explain then why my use of raw types is Valid and isn't a violation of this question:[link]What is a raw type and why shouldn't we use it?
Java have type erasure, so your Map<A,B> in runtime is just a Map, same for CrossReferenceImplementation<Map<String, SalesRep>,Map<String, SalesRep>,Map<String, SalesRep>> is just a CrossReferenceImplementation.
This also means that you can cast any map to Map and just put any objects you want in it, so you can have Map<String, Long> that is actually storing objects of Map<Cookie, Fish> type, and this is why you need to be careful with raw types and reflections.
You can't really use reflection and generics normally - you will always have some unchecked code then, but you can limit it to minimum and make it kind of type-safe anyways.
Like you can create own method to get field: (this is a bit of pseudocode, I will skip all possible exceptions, etc)
public class FieldAccessor<O, T> {
final Field field; // + private constructor
public T get(O object) { return (T) field.get(object); } // unsafe, bu we validated this before constructing this accessor
public static <O, T> FieldAccessor<O, T> create(Class<? super O> definingClass, Class<? super T> fieldClass, String fieldName) {
Field field = definingClass.getDeclaredField(fieldName);
if (field.getType() != fieldClass) {
throw some exception;
}
return new FieldAccessor<>(field);
}
Then you have all the needed validation before you need to use that field, and it will already return valid type. So you can get some value of valid type and add it to normal generic Map instance.
FieldAccessor<X, A> keyAccessor = FieldAccessor.create(X.class, A.class, "someProperty");
FieldAccessor<Y, B> valueAccessor = FieldAccessor.create(Y.class, B.class, "someOtherProperty");
Map<A, B> myMap = new HashMap<>();
mapMap.put(keyAccessor.get(myXValue), valueAccessor.get(myYValue));
This way you have type safe code that still works on reflections - it might still fail at runtime if you will provide invalid types, but at least you always know where it will fail - as here FieldAccessor is already checking all the types in runtime to ensure that you will not do something stupid like add Integer to Map<String, Long> as this might be hard to debug later. (unless someone will use this accessor as raw type, as .get isn't validated - but you can add that by passing definingClass to constructor and checking object instance in get methods)
You can do similar stuff for methods and fields that use generic types (like field of Map<X, Y> type, this FieldAccessor would only allow you to check if it is some kind of Map) - but it would be much harder as API for generics is still a bit "empty" - there is no build in way to create own instances of generic types or to check if they are assignable. (libraries like gson does that so they can deserialize maps and other generic types, they have own implementation of java generic type representation interfaces, like that ParameterizedType and implemented own method to check if given types are assignable)
Just when you are using reflections you need to always remember and understand that you are the one responsible for validating types, as compiler can't help you here, so that unsafe and raw typed code is fine as long as you have logic that validates if this code will never do something really unsafe (like that passing wrong type to generic method, like Integer to map of Long).
Just don't throw raw types and reflections in the middle of some normal code, add some abstraction to it, so it will be easier to maintain such code and project.
I hope this somewhat answers your question.

How do I get the class of a parameterized type in Java without instantiating it? [duplicate]

If I am creating a java class to be generic, such as:
public class Foo<T>
How can one determine internally to that class, what 'T' ended up being?
public ???? Bar()
{
//if its type 1
// do this
//if its type 2
// do this
//if its type 3
// do this
//if its type 4
// do this
}
I've poked around the Java API and played with the Reflection stuff, instanceof, getClass, .class, etc, but I can't seem to make heads or tails of them. I feel like I'm close and just need to combine a number of calls, but keep coming up short.
To be more specific, I am attempting to determine whether the class was instantiated with one of 3 possible types.
I've used a similar solution to what he explains here for a few projects and found it pretty useful.
http://blog.xebia.com/2009/02/07/acessing-generic-types-at-runtime-in-java/
The jist of it is using the following:
public Class returnedClass() {
ParameterizedType parameterizedType = (ParameterizedType)getClass()
.getGenericSuperclass();
return (Class) parameterizedType.getActualTypeArguments()[0];
}
In contrast to .NET Java generics are implemented by a technique called "type erasure".
What this means is that the compiler will use the type information when generating the class files, but not transfer this information to the byte code. If you look at the compiled classes with javap or similar tools, you will find that a List<String> is a simple List (of Object) in the class file, just as it was in pre-Java-5 code.
Code accessing the generic List will be "rewritten" by the compiler to include the casts you would have to write yourself in earlier versions. In effect the following two code fragments are identical from a byte code perspective once the compiler is done with them:
Java 5:
List<String> stringList = new ArrayList<String>();
stringList.add("Hello World");
String hw = stringList.get(0);
Java 1.4 and before:
List stringList = new ArrayList();
stringList.add("Hello World");
String hw = (String)stringList.get(0);
When reading values from a generic class in Java 5 the necessary cast to the declared type parameter is automatically inserted. When inserting, the compiler will check the value you try to put in and abort with an error if it is not a String.
The whole thing was done to keep old libraries and new generified code interoperable without any need to recompile the existing libs. This is a major advantage over the .NET way where generic classes and non-generic ones live side-by-side but cannot be interchanged freely.
Both approaches have their pros and cons, but that's the way it is in Java.
To get back to your original question: You will not be able to get at the type information at runtime, because it simply is not there anymore, once the compiler has done its job. This is surely limiting in some ways and there are some cranky ways around it which are usually based on storing a class-instance somewhere, but this is not a standard feature.
Because of type erasure, there is no way to do this directly. What you could do, though, is pass a Class<T> into the constructor and hold onto it inside your class. Then you can check it against the three possible Class types that you allow.
However, if there are only three possible types, you might want to consider refactoring into an enum instead.
The Problem is that most of the Generic stuff will disappear during compilation.
One common solution is to save the type during the creation of the Object.
For a short introduction in the Type Erasure behaviour of java read this page
If you know a few specific types that are meaningful, you should create subclasses of your generic type with the implementation.
So
public class Foo<T>
public ???? Bar()
{
//else condition goes here
}
And then
public class DateFoo extends Foo<Date>
public ???? Bar()
{
//Whatever you would have put in if(T == Date) would go here.
}
The whole point of a generic class is that you dont need to know the type that is being used....
It looks like what you want is in fact not a Generic class, but an interface with a number of different implementations. But maybe it would become clearer if you stated your actual, concrete goal.
I agree with Visage. Generics is for compile-time validation, not runtime dynamic typing. Sounds like what you need is really just the factory pattern. But if your "do this" isn't instantiation, then a simple Enum will probably work just as well. Like what Michael said, if you have a slightly more concrete example, you'll get better answers.

Why did Java have to adopt type erasure to maintain backwards compatability?

Let me preface this question by saying up front that I understand what Java can and can't do and am not asking about that. I'm wondering what the actual technical challenges are, from JVM and compiler standpoint, that require the compiler to behave the way it does.
Whenever I see discussions on weaknesses or most hated aspects of java Type Erasure always seems to be somewhere near the top of the list for Java Developers (it is for me!). If my history is correct Java 1.0 never implementing any type checking beyond passing Objects and recasting them. When a better Type system was required Sun had to decide between full Typing support which would break backwards comparability or going with their chosen solution of generics which didn't break old code.
Meanwhile C# ran into the same issue and went the opposite route of breaking backwards comparability to implement a more complex typing system around the same time (I believe).
My main question is why was this a either-or question for the two languages? What is it about the compiler process that means there is no way to support C# style handling of type without breaking backwards comparability in old code? I understand part of the problem is that the exact type is not always known at compile time, but at first (naive) glance it seems like some times it can be known at compile time, or that it can be left unknown at compile time and handled with a sort of reflection approach at runtime.
Is the problem that it's not feasible to implement, or that it was simply deemed too slow to implement a runtime sort of solution?
To go a step further lets use a simple generic factory example of code as an example of a place where type erasure feels rather cumbersome.
public class GenericFactory<FinalType, BuilderType<FinalType> extends GenericBuilder<FinalType>>{
private Class builderClass;
public GenericFactory(Class<BuilderType> builderClass){
this.builderClass=builderClass;
}
public FinalType create(){
GenericBuilder builder=builderClass.newInstance();
builder.setFoo(getSystemProperty("foo");
builder.setBar(getSystemProperty("bar");
builder.setBaz(getSystemProperty("baz");
return builder.build();
}
}
This example, assuming I didn't screw up on syntax somewhere, shows two particular annoyances of type erasure that at first glance seem like they should be easier to handle.
First, and less relevant, I had to add a FinalType parameter before I could refer to BuilderType extends GenericBuilder, even though it seems like FinalType could be inferred from BuilderType. I say less relevant since this may be more about generics syntax/implementation then the compiler limits that forced type erasure.
The second issue is that I had to pass in my BuilderClass object to the constructor in order to use reflection to build the builder, despite it being defined by the generics already. It seems as if it would be relatively easy for the compiler to store the generic class used here (so long as it didn't use the ? syntax) to allow reflection to look up the generic and then construct it.
Since this isn't done I presume there is a very good reason it is not. I'm trying to understand what these reasons are, what forces the JVM to stick with type erasure to maintain backwards compatibility?
I'm not sure what you're describing (the two "annoyances") are a result of type erasure.
I had to add a FinalType parameter before I could refer to BuilderType extends GenericBuilder, even though it seems like FinalType could be inferred from BuilderType
BuilderType<FinalType> would not be a valid generic type name unless I missed some changes to that in Java 8. Thus it should be BuilderType extends GenericBuilder<FinalType> which is fine. FinalType can't be inferred here, how should the compiler know which type to provide?
The second issue is that I had to pass in my BuilderClass object to the constructor in order to use reflection to build the builder, despite it being defined by the generics already.
That's not true. The generic parameters don't define what FinalType actually is. I could create a GenericFactory<String, StringBuilderType> (with StringBuilderType extends GenericBuilder<String>) as well as a GenericFactory<Integer, IntegerBuilderType> (with IntegerBuilderType extends GenericBuilder<Integer>).
Here, if you'd provide the type parameters to a variable definition or method call, type erasure would happen. As for the why refer to Andy's comment.
However, if you'd have a field or subclass, e.g. private GenericFactory<String, StringBuilderType> stringFactory, there is no type erasure. The generic types can be extracted from the reflection data (unfortunately there's no easy built-in way, but have a look here: http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=208860).

What is truly wrong with Java generics? [duplicate]

I've occasionally heard that with generics, Java didn't get it right. (nearest reference, here)
Pardon my inexperience, but what would have made them better?
Bad:
Type information is lost at compile time, so at execution time you can't tell what type it's "meant" to be
Can't be used for value types (this is a biggie - in .NET a List<byte> really is backed by a byte[] for example, and no boxing is required)
Syntax for calling generic methods sucks (IMO)
Syntax for constraints can get confusing
Wildcarding is generally confusing
Various restrictions due to the above - casting etc
Good:
Wildcarding allows covariance/contravariance to be specified at calling side, which is very neat in many situations
It's better than nothing!
The biggest problem is that Java generics are a compile-time only thing, and you can subvert it at run-time. C# is praised because it does more run-time checking. There is some really good discussion in this post, and it links to other discussions.
The main problem is that Java doesn't actually have generics at runtime. It's a compile time feature.
When you create a generic class in Java they use a method called "Type Erasure" to actually remove all of the generic types from the class and essentially replace them with Object. The mile high version of generics is that the compiler simply inserts casts to the specified generic type whenever it appears in the method body.
This has a lot of downsides. One of the biggest, IMHO, is that you can't use reflection to inspect a generic type. Types are not actually generic in the byte code and hence can't be inspected as generics.
Great overview of the differences here: http://www.jprl.com/Blog/archive/development/2007/Aug-31.html
Runtime implementation (ie not type erasure);
The ability to use primitive types (this is related to (1));
While the wildcarding is useful the syntax and knowing when to use it is something that stumps a lot of people. and
No performance improvement (because of (1); Java generics are syntactic sugar for castingi Objects).
(1) leads to some very strange behaviour. The best example I can think of is. Assume:
public class MyClass<T> {
T getStuff() { ... }
List<String> getOtherStuff() { ... }
}
then declare two variables:
MyClass<T> m1 = ...
MyClass m2 = ...
Now call getOtherStuff():
List<String> list1 = m1.getOtherStuff();
List<String> list2 = m2.getOtherStuff();
The second has its generic type argument stripped off by the compiler because it is a raw type (meaning the parameterized type isn't supplied) even though it has nothing to do with the parameterized type.
I'll also mention my favourite declaration from the JDK:
public class Enum<T extends Enum<T>>
Apart from wildcarding (which is a mixed bag) I just think the .Net generics are better.
I'm going to throw out a really controversial opinion. Generics complicate the language and complicate the code. For example, let's say that I have a map that maps a string to a list of strings. In the old days, I could declare this simply as
Map someMap;
Now, I have to declare it as
Map<String, List<String>> someMap;
And every time I pass it into some method, I have to repeat that big long declaration all over again. In my opinion, all that extra typing distracts the developer and takes him out of "the zone". Also, when code is filled with lots of cruft, sometimes it's hard to come back to it later and quickly sift through all the cruft to find the important logic.
Java already has a bad reputation for being one of the most verbose languages in common use, and generics just add to that problem.
And what do you really buy for all that extra verbosity? How many times have you really had problems where someone put an Integer into a collection that's supposed to hold Strings, or where someone tried to pull a String out of a collection of Integers? In my 10 years of experience working at building commercial Java applications, this has just never been a big source of errors. So, I'm not really sure what you're getting for the extra verbosity. It really just strikes me as extra bureaucratic baggage.
Now I'm going to get really controversial. What I see as the biggest problem with collections in Java 1.4 is the necessity to typecast everywhere. I view those typecasts as extra, verbose cruft that have many of the same problems as generics. So, for example, I can't just do
List someList = someMap.get("some key");
I have to do
List someList = (List) someMap.get("some key");
The reason, of course, is that get() returns an Object which is a supertype of List. So the assignment can't be made without a typecast. Again, think about how much that rule really buys you. From my experience, not much.
I think Java would have been way better off if 1) it had not added generics but 2) instead had allowed implicit casting from a supertype to a subtype. Let incorrect casts be caught at runtime. Then I could have had the simplicity of defining
Map someMap;
and later doing
List someList = someMap.get("some key");
all the cruft would be gone, and I really don't think I'd be introducing a big new source of bugs into my code.
Another side effect of them being compile-time and not run time is that you can't call the constructor of the generic type. So you can't use them to implement a generic factory...
public class MyClass {
public T getStuff() {
return new T();
}
}
--jeffk++
Ignoring the whole type erasure mess, generics as specified just don't work.
This compiles:
List<Integer> x = Collections.emptyList();
But this is a syntax error:
foo(Collections.emptyList());
Where foo is defined as:
void foo(List<Integer> x) { /* method body not important */ }
So whether an expression type checks depends on whether it is being assigned to a local variable or an actual parameter of a method call. How crazy is that?
Java generics are checked for correctness at compile time and then all type information is removed (the process is called type erasure. Thus, generic List<Integer> will be reduced to its raw type, non-generic List, which can contain objects of arbitrary class.
This results in being able to insert arbitrary objects to the list at runtime, as well as it's now impossible to tell what types were used as generic parameters. The latter in turn results in
ArrayList<Integer> li = new ArrayList<Integer>();
ArrayList<Float> lf = new ArrayList<Float>();
if(li.getClass() == lf.getClass()) // evaluates to true
System.out.println("Equal");
Java generics are compile-time only and are compiled into non-generic code. In C#, the actual compiled MSIL is generic. This has huge implications for performance because Java still casts during runtime. See here for more.
The introduction of generics into Java was a difficult task because the architects were trying to balance functionality, ease of use, and backward compatibility with legacy code. Quite expectedly, compromises had to be made.
There are some who also feel that Java's implementation of generics increased the complexity of the language to an unacceptable level (see Ken Arnold's "Generics Considered Harmful"). Angelika Langer's Generics FAQs gives a pretty good idea as to how complicated things can become.
I wish this was a wiki so I could add to other people... but...
Problems:
Type Erasure (no runtime availability)
No support for primative types
Incompatability with Annotations (they were both added in 1.5 I'm still not sure why annotations don't allow generics aside from rushing the features)
Incompatability with Arrays. (Sometimes I really want to do somthing like Class<? extends MyObject>[], but I'm not allowed)
Wierd wildcard syntax and behavior
The fact that generic support is inconsistant across Java classes. They added it to most of the collections methods, but every once in a while, you run into an instance where its not there.
Java doesn't enforce Generics at run time, only at compile time.
This means that you can do interesting things like adding the wrong types to generic Collections.
If you listen to Java Posse #279 - Interview with Joe Darcy and Alex Buckley, they talk about this issue. That also links to a Neal Gafter blog post titled Reified Generics for Java that says:
Many people are unsatisfied with the
restrictions caused by the way
generics are implemented in Java.
Specifically, they are unhappy that
generic type parameters are not
reified: they are not available at
runtime. Generics are implemented
using erasure, in which generic type
parameters are simply removed at
runtime.
That blog post, references an older entry, Puzzling Through Erasure: answer section, that stressed the point about migration compatibility in the requirements.
The goal was to provide backwards
compatibility of both source and
object code, and also migration
compatibility.

Java Generic Class - Determine Type

If I am creating a java class to be generic, such as:
public class Foo<T>
How can one determine internally to that class, what 'T' ended up being?
public ???? Bar()
{
//if its type 1
// do this
//if its type 2
// do this
//if its type 3
// do this
//if its type 4
// do this
}
I've poked around the Java API and played with the Reflection stuff, instanceof, getClass, .class, etc, but I can't seem to make heads or tails of them. I feel like I'm close and just need to combine a number of calls, but keep coming up short.
To be more specific, I am attempting to determine whether the class was instantiated with one of 3 possible types.
I've used a similar solution to what he explains here for a few projects and found it pretty useful.
http://blog.xebia.com/2009/02/07/acessing-generic-types-at-runtime-in-java/
The jist of it is using the following:
public Class returnedClass() {
ParameterizedType parameterizedType = (ParameterizedType)getClass()
.getGenericSuperclass();
return (Class) parameterizedType.getActualTypeArguments()[0];
}
In contrast to .NET Java generics are implemented by a technique called "type erasure".
What this means is that the compiler will use the type information when generating the class files, but not transfer this information to the byte code. If you look at the compiled classes with javap or similar tools, you will find that a List<String> is a simple List (of Object) in the class file, just as it was in pre-Java-5 code.
Code accessing the generic List will be "rewritten" by the compiler to include the casts you would have to write yourself in earlier versions. In effect the following two code fragments are identical from a byte code perspective once the compiler is done with them:
Java 5:
List<String> stringList = new ArrayList<String>();
stringList.add("Hello World");
String hw = stringList.get(0);
Java 1.4 and before:
List stringList = new ArrayList();
stringList.add("Hello World");
String hw = (String)stringList.get(0);
When reading values from a generic class in Java 5 the necessary cast to the declared type parameter is automatically inserted. When inserting, the compiler will check the value you try to put in and abort with an error if it is not a String.
The whole thing was done to keep old libraries and new generified code interoperable without any need to recompile the existing libs. This is a major advantage over the .NET way where generic classes and non-generic ones live side-by-side but cannot be interchanged freely.
Both approaches have their pros and cons, but that's the way it is in Java.
To get back to your original question: You will not be able to get at the type information at runtime, because it simply is not there anymore, once the compiler has done its job. This is surely limiting in some ways and there are some cranky ways around it which are usually based on storing a class-instance somewhere, but this is not a standard feature.
Because of type erasure, there is no way to do this directly. What you could do, though, is pass a Class<T> into the constructor and hold onto it inside your class. Then you can check it against the three possible Class types that you allow.
However, if there are only three possible types, you might want to consider refactoring into an enum instead.
The Problem is that most of the Generic stuff will disappear during compilation.
One common solution is to save the type during the creation of the Object.
For a short introduction in the Type Erasure behaviour of java read this page
If you know a few specific types that are meaningful, you should create subclasses of your generic type with the implementation.
So
public class Foo<T>
public ???? Bar()
{
//else condition goes here
}
And then
public class DateFoo extends Foo<Date>
public ???? Bar()
{
//Whatever you would have put in if(T == Date) would go here.
}
The whole point of a generic class is that you dont need to know the type that is being used....
It looks like what you want is in fact not a Generic class, but an interface with a number of different implementations. But maybe it would become clearer if you stated your actual, concrete goal.
I agree with Visage. Generics is for compile-time validation, not runtime dynamic typing. Sounds like what you need is really just the factory pattern. But if your "do this" isn't instantiation, then a simple Enum will probably work just as well. Like what Michael said, if you have a slightly more concrete example, you'll get better answers.

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