Difference in Increment-decrement operator in C and JAVA [duplicate] - java

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Please consider the following statement:
int a[]={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8};
int i=0,n;
n=a[++i] + i++ + a[i++] + a[i] ;
According to my logic n should be 10. But I am getting different output in c (output is 7)
However in java I am getting expected result that is 10. Is there any difference in the way in which increment and decrement operators work in c and java.
Here is my exact c and java code:
#include <stdio.h>
int main()
{
int a[]={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8};
int i=0,n;
n=a[++i] + i++ + a[i++] + a[i] ;
printf("%d",n);
getch();
return 0;
}
Java code with output : 10
public class HelloWorld{
public static void main(String []args){
int a[]={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8};
int i=0,n;
i=0;
n=a[++i] + i++ + a[i++] + a[i] ;
System.out.println(n);
}
}

In C, that's an undefined behaviour. Since C doesn't guarantee the order of evaluation of individual operation in an expression.

With respect to C from the c99 draft standard 6.5.2:
Between the previous and next sequence point an object shall have its stored value
modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value
shall be read only to determine the value to be stored.
it cites the following code examples as being undefined:
i = ++i + 1;
a[i++] = i;
The section is same in the draft 2011 standard as well but it reads a bit more awkward. This is a good reference on sequence point.
Section 15.7 is the relevant section from the JLS:
The Java programming language guarantees that the operands of operators appear to be evaluated in a specific evaluation order, namely, from left to right.
It is recommended that code not rely crucially on this specification. Code is usually clearer when each expression contains at most one side effect

To add to Rohit's answer, if you do each of the steps separately, the answer 10 is given. This just highlights that the execution of i++ and ++i may not be happening in the order the arguments are being added to the value n.
#include <stdio.h>
int main()
{
int a[]={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8};
int i=0,n;
n=a[++i] + i++ + a[i++] + a[i] ;
printf("%d\n",n);
i=0;
n=0;
n=a[++i];
printf("%d\n",n);
n+=i++;
printf("%d\n",n);
n+=a[i++];
printf("%d\n",n);
n+=a[i];
printf("%d\n",n);
return 0;
}

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Increment Operator [duplicate]

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I missed this question three times on a test. I just can't seem to grasp how to solve this. Any help is much appreciated.
public class Test {
public static void main(String[] args) {
int j = 0;
int i = ++j + j * 5;
System.out.println("What is i? " + i);
}
}
For:
int i = ++j + j * 5;
The variable j is per-incremented by 1 with the expression ++j, that is equal to j+1, changing the value of j to 1. Then following the rules for the order of operations in java, the multiplication is executed (j * 5) or (1 * 5) at this stage, so currently i = 5. Finally to the product of the multiplication j is added (j + 5) or (1 + 5) = 6.
You can check this page where this is explain in a simple way:
http://introcs.cs.princeton.edu/java/11precedence/
As per Java's operator precedence and evaluation order, i is equal to 6. i is set equal to j which is pre-incremented to 1, and added to the product of itself and 5, which is 6.
The thing to note here is the difference between j++ and ++j. See this: The difference between ++Var and Var++
Keeping this in mind, ++j will return 1, and change j's value to 1. So the next part, j*5 is equal to 1*5, which is 5. So overall ++j + j*5 gives you 6.
if ++j appears in the statement, the value of j is first incremented and then the statement is executed. But if j++ appears in the statement, first statement is executed and then the value is incremented.
To simply solve execution part, you can ignore ++ sign and simplify it. But don't forget the order of increment and simplification.
Java has an operator precedence rule which means for any mathematical expression in Java which contains operators, postfixes(j++) and prefixes(++j) are evaluated first. There is also left and right associativity which is how your statement is parsed. Mathematical operators such as +,-,/,* have left to right associativity. Postfixes and Prefixes have right to left associativity.
Looking at the Java Grammar File one finds that
The value of the prefix increment expression is the value of the
variable after the new value is stored
So, ++j is 1 for the current statement.
The value of the postfix increment expression is the value of the
variable before the new value is stored.
So, j++ is 0 for the current statement.
So, (++j) + j * 5 after prefix evaluation becomes (1 + (1 * 5)) = 6.
[Edit]
Thus, statement such as j++ + j * 5 will give you 5 as an answer because j becomes 1 after j++(postfix increment) but j++ itself remains 0.
According to java operator precedence, ++ operator has higher precedence than + and * operators. Here's what happens, step by step:
First ++j happens. Since j is 0, ++j increments j to 1.
Now the expression ++j + 5 * j has become 1 + 5 * 1.
Now we have two operators, + and *. Which one is applied first? See the operator precedence chart and you will find out that * has higher precedence than + . So first 5 * 1 takes place first. After multiplication the expression looks like 1 + 5.
Adding 1 to 5, we get 6. So....i = 6 is the result.
If u want to know more about ++ operator, there are some decent videos on youtube.

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This is regarding another question: Java Recursion Bug? I am going crazy.
I understand the solution there. But, why does C++ behaves differently than Java in this case?
Can anybody please give exact pointers (no pun) to C++/Java specifications? I know that java assigns 0 to sum before each call, while C++ does it differently. But what's the specification which allows this?
Edit:
Adding code from link
public class Test {
public static int sum=0;
public static int fun(int n) {
if (n == 1)
return 1;
else
sum += fun(n - 1); // this statement leads to weird output
// { // the following block has right output
// int tmp = fun(n - 1);
// sum += tmp;
// }
return sum;
}
public static void main(String[] arg) {
System.out.print(fun(5));
}
}
The output is 1 which should be 8. Relative C/C++ code is as follows:
#include<stdio.h>
int sum=0;
int fun(int n) {
if (n == 1)
return 1;
else
sum += fun(n - 1);
return sum;
}
int main()
{
printf("%d",fun(5));
return 0;
}
Output in C++ is 8.
OK, combining everyone's comments:
This line:
sum += fun(n - 1); // this statement leads to weird output
expands to
sum = sum + fun(n - 1);
in both C++ and Java. See JLS 15.26.2, C++11 draft section 5.17(7).
In Java, the language specifies that sum must be evaluated first, before the function is called. See JLS 15.7.1. In order to get this right (in case fun modifies sum, as it does), the code must read sum and save it somewhere, before it calls fun. After fun returns, the code then adds the saved version of sum to the result of fun. Since sum is never modified until after all the fun calls have been started, the result is that all the saved versions of sum are 0, and the result is 1.
In C++, the order in which the operands to + are evaluated is unspecified. (See 1.9.15 of the C++11 draft.) Because of this, the function result could be 1 or 8 depending on how the compiler decides to implement it. 8 is probably more likely, since the compiler will probably generate code that doesn't require sum to be saved in a temporary, and on some processors could generate an instruction that adds directly into sum without reading it first. But 1 would not be an incorrect result, since the evaluation order is unspecified and the result can change depending on the evaluation order. Moral: Don't write code like this.
from jls http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-15.html#jls-15.7.1
15.7.1. Evaluate Left-Hand Operand First
The left-hand operand of a binary operator appears to be fully evaluated before any part of the right-hand operand is evaluated.
If the operator is a compound-assignment operator (§15.26.2), then evaluation of the left-hand operand includes both remembering the variable that the left-hand operand denotes and fetching and saving that variable's value for use in the implied binary operation.
If evaluation of the left-hand operand of a binary operator completes abruptly, no part of the right-hand operand appears to have been evaluated.
for
sum += fun(n - 1);
sum is evaluated first and the value 0 is saved any change to the value of sum
after this is ignored.
fun is then evaluated and is equal to 1
giving the result
sum = 0 + 1
recursively this is the same as
sum = sum + sum + sum + sum + 1
or
sum = 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1
update - declaring sum to be volatile would prevent using a cached copy of sum in an expression, but this may not solve the order of evaluation issue.
If Java is always left to right then changing the statement to sum = fun(n-1) + sum should work, but the alternate code mentioned in the original example may be the only solution. volatile isn't needed in this example, but I left it there to show how it's implemented.
#include <iostream>
class Test{
public:
static volatile int sum;
static int fun(int n) {
if (n == 1)
return 1;
int tmp = fun(n - 1);
sum += tmp;
return sum;
}
};
volatile int Test::sum = 0; // declare and initialize sum
int main(){
std::cout << Test::fun(5) << std::endl;
return(0);
}

Increment operator in C and Java [duplicate]

#include <stdio.h>
int main(void)
{
int i = 0;
i = i++ + ++i;
printf("%d\n", i); // 3
i = 1;
i = (i++);
printf("%d\n", i); // 2 Should be 1, no ?
volatile int u = 0;
u = u++ + ++u;
printf("%d\n", u); // 1
u = 1;
u = (u++);
printf("%d\n", u); // 2 Should also be one, no ?
register int v = 0;
v = v++ + ++v;
printf("%d\n", v); // 3 (Should be the same as u ?)
int w = 0;
printf("%d %d\n", ++w, w); // shouldn't this print 1 1
int x[2] = { 5, 8 }, y = 0;
x[y] = y ++;
printf("%d %d\n", x[0], x[1]); // shouldn't this print 0 8? or 5 0?
}
C has the concept of undefined behavior, i.e. some language constructs are syntactically valid but you can't predict the behavior when the code is run.
As far as I know, the standard doesn't explicitly say why the concept of undefined behavior exists. In my mind, it's simply because the language designers wanted there to be some leeway in the semantics, instead of i.e. requiring that all implementations handle integer overflow in the exact same way, which would very likely impose serious performance costs, they just left the behavior undefined so that if you write code that causes integer overflow, anything can happen.
So, with that in mind, why are these "issues"? The language clearly says that certain things lead to undefined behavior. There is no problem, there is no "should" involved. If the undefined behavior changes when one of the involved variables is declared volatile, that doesn't prove or change anything. It is undefined; you cannot reason about the behavior.
Your most interesting-looking example, the one with
u = (u++);
is a text-book example of undefined behavior (see Wikipedia's entry on sequence points).
Most of the answers here quoted from C standard emphasizing that the behavior of these constructs are undefined. To understand why the behavior of these constructs are undefined, let's understand these terms first in the light of C11 standard:
Sequenced: (5.1.2.3)
Given any two evaluations A and B, if A is sequenced before B, then the execution of A shall precede the execution of B.
Unsequenced:
If A is not sequenced before or after B, then A and B are unsequenced.
Evaluations can be one of two things:
value computations, which work out the result of an expression; and
side effects, which are modifications of objects.
Sequence Point:
The presence of a sequence point between the evaluation of expressions A and B implies that every value computation and side effect associated with A is sequenced before every value computation and side effect associated with B.
Now coming to the question, for the expressions like
int i = 1;
i = i++;
standard says that:
6.5 Expressions:
If a side effect on a scalar object is unsequenced relative to either a different side effect on the same scalar object or a value computation using the value of the same scalar object, the behavior is undefined. [...]
Therefore, the above expression invokes UB because two side effects on the same object i is unsequenced relative to each other. That means it is not sequenced whether the side effect by assignment to i will be done before or after the side effect by ++.
Depending on whether assignment occurs before or after the increment, different results will be produced and that's the one of the case of undefined behavior.
Lets rename the i at left of assignment be il and at the right of assignment (in the expression i++) be ir, then the expression be like
il = ir++ // Note that suffix l and r are used for the sake of clarity.
// Both il and ir represents the same object.
An important point regarding Postfix ++ operator is that:
just because the ++ comes after the variable does not mean that the increment happens late. The increment can happen as early as the compiler likes as long as the compiler ensures that the original value is used.
It means the expression il = ir++ could be evaluated either as
temp = ir; // i = 1
ir = ir + 1; // i = 2 side effect by ++ before assignment
il = temp; // i = 1 result is 1
or
temp = ir; // i = 1
il = temp; // i = 1 side effect by assignment before ++
ir = ir + 1; // i = 2 result is 2
resulting in two different results 1 and 2 which depends on the sequence of side effects by assignment and ++ and hence invokes UB.
I think the relevant parts of the C99 standard are 6.5 Expressions, §2
Between the previous and next sequence point an object shall have its stored value
modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value
shall be read only to determine the value to be stored.
and 6.5.16 Assignment operators, §4:
The order of evaluation of the operands is unspecified. If an attempt is made to modify
the result of an assignment operator or to access it after the next sequence point, the
behavior is undefined.
Just compile and disassemble your line of code, if you are so inclined to know how exactly it is you get what you are getting.
This is what I get on my machine, together with what I think is going on:
$ cat evil.c
void evil(){
int i = 0;
i+= i++ + ++i;
}
$ gcc evil.c -c -o evil.bin
$ gdb evil.bin
(gdb) disassemble evil
Dump of assembler code for function evil:
0x00000000 <+0>: push %ebp
0x00000001 <+1>: mov %esp,%ebp
0x00000003 <+3>: sub $0x10,%esp
0x00000006 <+6>: movl $0x0,-0x4(%ebp) // i = 0 i = 0
0x0000000d <+13>: addl $0x1,-0x4(%ebp) // i++ i = 1
0x00000011 <+17>: mov -0x4(%ebp),%eax // j = i i = 1 j = 1
0x00000014 <+20>: add %eax,%eax // j += j i = 1 j = 2
0x00000016 <+22>: add %eax,-0x4(%ebp) // i += j i = 3
0x00000019 <+25>: addl $0x1,-0x4(%ebp) // i++ i = 4
0x0000001d <+29>: leave
0x0000001e <+30>: ret
End of assembler dump.
(I... suppose that the 0x00000014 instruction was some kind of compiler optimization?)
The behavior can't really be explained because it invokes both unspecified behavior and undefined behavior, so we can not make any general predictions about this code, although if you read Olve Maudal's work such as Deep C and Unspecified and Undefined sometimes you can make good guesses in very specific cases with a specific compiler and environment but please don't do that anywhere near production.
So moving on to unspecified behavior, in draft c99 standard section6.5 paragraph 3 says(emphasis mine):
The grouping of operators and operands is indicated by the syntax.74) Except as specified
later (for the function-call (), &&, ||, ?:, and comma operators), the order of evaluation of subexpressions and the order in which side effects take place are both unspecified.
So when we have a line like this:
i = i++ + ++i;
we do not know whether i++ or ++i will be evaluated first. This is mainly to give the compiler better options for optimization.
We also have undefined behavior here as well since the program is modifying variables(i, u, etc..) more than once between sequence points. From draft standard section 6.5 paragraph 2(emphasis mine):
Between the previous and next sequence point an object shall have its stored value
modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value
shall be read only to determine the value to be stored.
it cites the following code examples as being undefined:
i = ++i + 1;
a[i++] = i;
In all these examples the code is attempting to modify an object more than once in the same sequence point, which will end with the ; in each one of these cases:
i = i++ + ++i;
^ ^ ^
i = (i++);
^ ^
u = u++ + ++u;
^ ^ ^
u = (u++);
^ ^
v = v++ + ++v;
^ ^ ^
Unspecified behavior is defined in the draft c99 standard in section 3.4.4 as:
use of an unspecified value, or other behavior where this International Standard provides
two or more possibilities and imposes no further requirements on which is chosen in any
instance
and undefined behavior is defined in section 3.4.3 as:
behavior, upon use of a nonportable or erroneous program construct or of erroneous data,
for which this International Standard imposes no requirements
and notes that:
Possible undefined behavior ranges from ignoring the situation completely with unpredictable results, to behaving during translation or program execution in a documented manner characteristic of the environment (with or without the issuance of a diagnostic message), to terminating a translation or execution (with the issuance of a diagnostic message).
Another way of answering this, rather than getting bogged down in arcane details of sequence points and undefined behavior, is simply to ask, what are they supposed to mean? What was the programmer trying to do?
The first fragment asked about, i = i++ + ++i, is pretty clearly insane in my book. No one would ever write it in a real program, it's not obvious what it does, there's no conceivable algorithm someone could have been trying to code that would have resulted in this particular contrived sequence of operations. And since it's not obvious to you and me what it's supposed to do, it's fine in my book if the compiler can't figure out what it's supposed to do, either.
The second fragment, i = i++, is a little easier to understand. Someone is clearly trying to increment i, and assign the result back to i. But there are a couple ways of doing this in C. The most basic way to add 1 to i, and assign the result back to i, is the same in almost any programming language:
i = i + 1
C, of course, has a handy shortcut:
i++
This means, "add 1 to i, and assign the result back to i". So if we construct a hodgepodge of the two, by writing
i = i++
what we're really saying is "add 1 to i, and assign the result back to i, and assign the result back to i". We're confused, so it doesn't bother me too much if the compiler gets confused, too.
Realistically, the only time these crazy expressions get written is when people are using them as artificial examples of how ++ is supposed to work. And of course it is important to understand how ++ works. But one practical rule for using ++ is, "If it's not obvious what an expression using ++ means, don't write it."
We used to spend countless hours on comp.lang.c discussing expressions like these and why they're undefined. Two of my longer answers, that try to really explain why, are archived on the web:
Why doesn't the Standard define what these do?
Doesn't operator precedence determine the order of evaluation?
See also question 3.8 and the rest of the questions in section 3 of the C FAQ list.
Often this question is linked as a duplicate of questions related to code like
printf("%d %d\n", i, i++);
or
printf("%d %d\n", ++i, i++);
or similar variants.
While this is also undefined behaviour as stated already, there are subtle differences when printf() is involved when comparing to a statement such as:
x = i++ + i++;
In the following statement:
printf("%d %d\n", ++i, i++);
the order of evaluation of arguments in printf() is unspecified. That means, expressions i++ and ++i could be evaluated in any order. C11 standard has some relevant descriptions on this:
Annex J, unspecified behaviours
The order in which the function designator, arguments, and
subexpressions within the arguments are evaluated in a function call
(6.5.2.2).
3.4.4, unspecified behavior
Use of an unspecified value, or other behavior where this
International Standard provides two or more possibilities and imposes
no further requirements on which is chosen in any instance.
EXAMPLE An example of unspecified behavior is the order in which the
arguments to a function are evaluated.
The unspecified behaviour itself is NOT an issue. Consider this example:
printf("%d %d\n", ++x, y++);
This too has unspecified behaviour because the order of evaluation of ++x and y++ is unspecified. But it's perfectly legal and valid statement. There's no undefined behaviour in this statement. Because the modifications (++x and y++) are done to distinct objects.
What renders the following statement
printf("%d %d\n", ++i, i++);
as undefined behaviour is the fact that these two expressions modify the same object i without an intervening sequence point.
Another detail is that the comma involved in the printf() call is a separator, not the comma operator.
This is an important distinction because the comma operator does introduce a sequence point between the evaluation of their operands, which makes the following legal:
int i = 5;
int j;
j = (++i, i++); // No undefined behaviour here because the comma operator
// introduces a sequence point between '++i' and 'i++'
printf("i=%d j=%d\n",i, j); // prints: i=7 j=6
The comma operator evaluates its operands left-to-right and yields only the value of the last operand. So in j = (++i, i++);, ++i increments i to 6 and i++ yields old value of i (6) which is assigned to j. Then i becomes 7 due to post-increment.
So if the comma in the function call were to be a comma operator then
printf("%d %d\n", ++i, i++);
will not be a problem. But it invokes undefined behaviour because the comma here is a separator.
For those who are new to undefined behaviour would benefit from reading What Every C Programmer Should Know About Undefined Behavior to understand the concept and many other variants of undefined behaviour in C.
This post: Undefined, unspecified and implementation-defined behavior is also relevant.
While it is unlikely that any compilers and processors would actually do so, it would be legal, under the C standard, for the compiler to implement "i++" with the sequence:
In a single operation, read `i` and lock it to prevent access until further notice
Compute (1+read_value)
In a single operation, unlock `i` and store the computed value
While I don't think any processors support the hardware to allow such a thing to be done efficiently, one can easily imagine situations where such behavior would make multi-threaded code easier (e.g. it would guarantee that if two threads try to perform the above sequence simultaneously, i would get incremented by two) and it's not totally inconceivable that some future processor might provide a feature something like that.
If the compiler were to write i++ as indicated above (legal under the standard) and were to intersperse the above instructions throughout the evaluation of the overall expression (also legal), and if it didn't happen to notice that one of the other instructions happened to access i, it would be possible (and legal) for the compiler to generate a sequence of instructions that would deadlock. To be sure, a compiler would almost certainly detect the problem in the case where the same variable i is used in both places, but if a routine accepts references to two pointers p and q, and uses (*p) and (*q) in the above expression (rather than using i twice) the compiler would not be required to recognize or avoid the deadlock that would occur if the same object's address were passed for both p and q.
While the syntax of the expressions like a = a++ or a++ + a++ is legal, the behaviour of these constructs is undefined because a shall in C standard is not obeyed. C99 6.5p2:
Between the previous and next sequence point an object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. [72] Furthermore, the prior value shall be read only to determine the value to be stored [73]
With footnote 73 further clarifying that
This paragraph renders undefined statement expressions such as
i = ++i + 1;
a[i++] = i;
while allowing
i = i + 1;
a[i] = i;
The various sequence points are listed in Annex C of C11 (and C99):
The following are the sequence points described in 5.1.2.3:
Between the evaluations of the function designator and actual arguments in a function call and the actual call. (6.5.2.2).
Between the evaluations of the first and second operands of the following operators: logical AND && (6.5.13); logical OR || (6.5.14); comma , (6.5.17).
Between the evaluations of the first operand of the conditional ? : operator and whichever of the second and third operands is evaluated (6.5.15).
The end of a full declarator: declarators (6.7.6);
Between the evaluation of a full expression and the next full expression to be evaluated. The following are full expressions: an initializer that is not part of a compound literal (6.7.9); the expression in an expression statement (6.8.3); the controlling expression of a selection statement (if or switch) (6.8.4); the controlling expression of a while or do statement (6.8.5); each of the (optional) expressions of a for statement (6.8.5.3); the (optional) expression in a return statement (6.8.6.4).
Immediately before a library function returns (7.1.4).
After the actions associated with each formatted input/output function conversion specifier (7.21.6, 7.29.2).
Immediately before and immediately after each call to a comparison function, and also between any call to a comparison function and any movement of the objects passed as arguments to that call (7.22.5).
The wording of the same paragraph in C11 is:
If a side effect on a scalar object is unsequenced relative to either a different side effect on the same scalar object or a value computation using the value of the same scalar object, the behavior is undefined. If there are multiple allowable orderings of the subexpressions of an expression, the behavior is undefined if such an unsequenced side effect occurs in any of the orderings.84)
You can detect such errors in a program by for example using a recent version of GCC with -Wall and -Werror, and then GCC will outright refuse to compile your program. The following is the output of gcc (Ubuntu 6.2.0-5ubuntu12) 6.2.0 20161005:
% gcc plusplus.c -Wall -Werror -pedantic
plusplus.c: In function ‘main’:
plusplus.c:6:6: error: operation on ‘i’ may be undefined [-Werror=sequence-point]
i = i++ + ++i;
~~^~~~~~~~~~~
plusplus.c:6:6: error: operation on ‘i’ may be undefined [-Werror=sequence-point]
plusplus.c:10:6: error: operation on ‘i’ may be undefined [-Werror=sequence-point]
i = (i++);
~~^~~~~~~
plusplus.c:14:6: error: operation on ‘u’ may be undefined [-Werror=sequence-point]
u = u++ + ++u;
~~^~~~~~~~~~~
plusplus.c:14:6: error: operation on ‘u’ may be undefined [-Werror=sequence-point]
plusplus.c:18:6: error: operation on ‘u’ may be undefined [-Werror=sequence-point]
u = (u++);
~~^~~~~~~
plusplus.c:22:6: error: operation on ‘v’ may be undefined [-Werror=sequence-point]
v = v++ + ++v;
~~^~~~~~~~~~~
plusplus.c:22:6: error: operation on ‘v’ may be undefined [-Werror=sequence-point]
cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
The important part is to know what a sequence point is -- and what is a sequence point and what isn't. For example the comma operator is a sequence point, so
j = (i ++, ++ i);
is well-defined, and will increment i by one, yielding the old value, discard that value; then at comma operator, settle the side effects; and then increment i by one, and the resulting value becomes the value of the expression - i.e. this is just a contrived way to write j = (i += 2) which is yet again a "clever" way to write
i += 2;
j = i;
However, the , in function argument lists is not a comma operator, and there is no sequence point between evaluations of distinct arguments; instead their evaluations are unsequenced with regard to each other; so the function call
int i = 0;
printf("%d %d\n", i++, ++i, i);
has undefined behaviour because there is no sequence point between the evaluations of i++ and ++i in function arguments, and the value of i is therefore modified twice, by both i++ and ++i, between the previous and the next sequence point.
The C standard says that a variable should only be assigned at most once between two sequence points. A semi-colon for instance is a sequence point.
So every statement of the form:
i = i++;
i = i++ + ++i;
and so on violate that rule. The standard also says that behavior is undefined and not unspecified. Some compilers do detect these and produce some result but this is not per standard.
However, two different variables can be incremented between two sequence points.
while(*src++ = *dst++);
The above is a common coding practice while copying/analysing strings.
In https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29505280/incrementing-array-index-in-c someone asked about a statement like:
int k[] = {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10};
int i = 0;
int num;
num = k[++i+k[++i]] + k[++i];
printf("%d", num);
which prints 7... the OP expected it to print 6.
The ++i increments aren't guaranteed to all complete before the rest of the calculations. In fact, different compilers will get different results here. In the example you provided, the first 2 ++i executed, then the values of k[] were read, then the last ++i then k[].
num = k[i+1]+k[i+2] + k[i+3];
i += 3
Modern compilers will optimize this very well. In fact, possibly better than the code you originally wrote (assuming it had worked the way you had hoped).
Your question was probably not, "Why are these constructs undefined behavior in C?". Your question was probably, "Why did this code (using ++) not give me the value I expected?", and someone marked your question as a duplicate, and sent you here.
This answer tries to answer that question: why did your code not give you the answer you expected, and how can you learn to recognize (and avoid) expressions that will not work as expected.
I assume you've heard the basic definition of C's ++ and -- operators by now, and how the prefix form ++x differs from the postfix form x++. But these operators are hard to think about, so to make sure you understood, perhaps you wrote a tiny little test program involving something like
int x = 5;
printf("%d %d %d\n", x, ++x, x++);
But, to your surprise, this program did not help you understand — it printed some strange, inexplicable output, suggesting that maybe ++ does something completely different, not at all what you thought it did.
Or, perhaps you're looking at a hard-to-understand expression like
int x = 5;
x = x++ + ++x;
printf("%d\n", x);
Perhaps someone gave you that code as a puzzle. This code also makes no sense, especially if you run it — and if you compile and run it under two different compilers, you're likely to get two different answers! What's up with that? Which answer is correct? (And the answer is that both of them are, or neither of them are.)
As you've heard by now, these expressions are undefined, which means that the C language makes no guarantee about what they'll do. This is a strange and unsettling result, because you probably thought that any program you could write, as long as it compiled and ran, would generate a unique, well-defined output. But in the case of undefined behavior, that's not so.
What makes an expression undefined? Are expressions involving ++ and -- always undefined? Of course not: these are useful operators, and if you use them properly, they're perfectly well-defined.
For the expressions we're talking about, what makes them undefined is when there's too much going on at once, when we can't tell what order things will happen in, but when the order matters to the result we'll get.
Let's go back to the two examples I've used in this answer. When I wrote
printf("%d %d %d\n", x, ++x, x++);
the question is, before actually calling printf, does the compiler compute the value of x first, or x++, or maybe ++x? But it turns out we don't know. There's no rule in C which says that the arguments to a function get evaluated left-to-right, or right-to-left, or in some other order. So we can't say whether the compiler will do x first, then ++x, then x++, or x++ then ++x then x, or some other order. But the order clearly matters, because depending on which order the compiler uses, we'll clearly get a different series of numbers printed out.
What about this crazy expression?
x = x++ + ++x;
The problem with this expression is that it contains three different attempts to modify the value of x: (1) the x++ part tries to take x's value, add 1, store the new value in x, and return the old value; (2) the ++x part tries to take x's value, add 1, store the new value in x, and return the new value; and (3) the x = part tries to assign the sum of the other two back to x. Which of those three attempted assignments will "win"? Which of the three values will actually determine the final value of x? Again, and perhaps surprisingly, there's no rule in C to tell us.
You might imagine that precedence or associativity or left-to-right evaluation tells you what order things happen in, but they do not. You may not believe me, but please take my word for it, and I'll say it again: precedence and associativity do not determine every aspect of the evaluation order of an expression in C. In particular, if within one expression there are multiple different spots where we try to assign a new value to something like x, precedence and associativity do not tell us which of those attempts happens first, or last, or anything.
So with all that background and introduction out of the way, if you want to make sure that all your programs are well-defined, which expressions can you write, and which ones can you not write?
These expressions are all fine:
y = x++;
z = x++ + y++;
x = x + 1;
x = a[i++];
x = a[i++] + b[j++];
x[i++] = a[j++] + b[k++];
x = *p++;
x = *p++ + *q++;
These expressions are all undefined:
x = x++;
x = x++ + ++x;
y = x + x++;
a[i] = i++;
a[i++] = i;
printf("%d %d %d\n", x, ++x, x++);
And the last question is, how can you tell which expressions are well-defined, and which expressions are undefined?
As I said earlier, the undefined expressions are the ones where there's too much going at once, where you can't be sure what order things happen in, and where the order matters:
If there's one variable that's getting modified (assigned to) in two or more different places, how do you know which modification happens first?
If there's a variable that's getting modified in one place, and having its value used in another place, how do you know whether it uses the old value or the new value?
As an example of #1, in the expression
x = x++ + ++x;
there are three attempts to modify x.
As an example of #2, in the expression
y = x + x++;
we both use the value of x, and modify it.
So that's the answer: make sure that in any expression you write, each variable is modified at most once, and if a variable is modified, you don't also attempt to use the value of that variable somewhere else.
One more thing. You might be wondering how to "fix" the undefined expressions I started this answer by presenting.
In the case of printf("%d %d %d\n", x, ++x, x++);, it's easy — just write it as three separate printf calls:
printf("%d ", x);
printf("%d ", ++x);
printf("%d\n", x++);
Now the behavior is perfectly well defined, and you'll get sensible results.
In the case of x = x++ + ++x, on the other hand, there's no way to fix it. There's no way to write it so that it has guaranteed behavior matching your expectations — but that's okay, because you would never write an expression like x = x++ + ++x in a real program anyway.
A good explanation about what happens in this kind of computation is provided in the document n1188 from the ISO W14 site.
I explain the ideas.
The main rule from the standard ISO 9899 that applies in this situation is 6.5p2.
Between the previous and next sequence point an object shall have its stored value modified at most once by the evaluation of an expression. Furthermore, the prior value shall be read only to determine the value to be stored.
The sequence points in an expression like i=i++ are before i= and after i++.
In the paper that I quoted above it is explained that you can figure out the program as being formed by small boxes, each box containing the instructions between 2 consecutive sequence points. The sequence points are defined in annex C of the standard, in the case of i=i++ there are 2 sequence points that delimit a full-expression. Such an expression is syntactically equivalent with an entry of expression-statement in the Backus-Naur form of the grammar (a grammar is provided in annex A of the Standard).
So the order of instructions inside a box has no clear order.
i=i++
can be interpreted as
tmp = i
i=i+1
i = tmp
or as
tmp = i
i = tmp
i=i+1
because both all these forms to interpret the code i=i++ are valid and because both generate different answers, the behavior is undefined.
So a sequence point can be seen by the beginning and the end of each box that composes the program [the boxes are atomic units in C] and inside a box the order of instructions is not defined in all cases. Changing that order one can change the result sometimes.
EDIT:
Other good source for explaining such ambiguities are the entries from c-faq site (also published as a book) , namely here and here and here .
The reason is that the program is running undefined behavior. The problem lies in the evaluation order, because there is no sequence points required according to C++98 standard ( no operations is sequenced before or after another according to C++11 terminology).
However if you stick to one compiler, you will find the behavior persistent, as long as you don't add function calls or pointers, which would make the behavior more messy.
Using Nuwen MinGW 15 GCC 7.1 you will get:
#include<stdio.h>
int main(int argc, char ** argv)
{
int i = 0;
i = i++ + ++i;
printf("%d\n", i); // 2
i = 1;
i = (i++);
printf("%d\n", i); //1
volatile int u = 0;
u = u++ + ++u;
printf("%d\n", u); // 2
u = 1;
u = (u++);
printf("%d\n", u); //1
register int v = 0;
v = v++ + ++v;
printf("%d\n", v); //2
}
How does GCC work? it evaluates sub expressions at a left to right order for the right hand side (RHS) , then assigns the value to the left hand side (LHS) . This is exactly how Java and C# behave and define their standards. (Yes, the equivalent software in Java and C# has defined behaviors). It evaluate each sub expression one by one in the RHS Statement in a left to right order; for each sub expression: the ++c (pre-increment) is evaluated first then the value c is used for the operation, then the post increment c++).
according to GCC C++: Operators
In GCC C++, the precedence of the operators controls the order in
which the individual operators are evaluated
the equivalent code in defined behavior C++ as GCC understands:
#include<stdio.h>
int main(int argc, char ** argv)
{
int i = 0;
//i = i++ + ++i;
int r;
r=i;
i++;
++i;
r+=i;
i=r;
printf("%d\n", i); // 2
i = 1;
//i = (i++);
r=i;
i++;
i=r;
printf("%d\n", i); // 1
volatile int u = 0;
//u = u++ + ++u;
r=u;
u++;
++u;
r+=u;
u=r;
printf("%d\n", u); // 2
u = 1;
//u = (u++);
r=u;
u++;
u=r;
printf("%d\n", u); // 1
register int v = 0;
//v = v++ + ++v;
r=v;
v++;
++v;
r+=v;
v=r;
printf("%d\n", v); //2
}
Then we go to Visual Studio. Visual Studio 2015, you get:
#include<stdio.h>
int main(int argc, char ** argv)
{
int i = 0;
i = i++ + ++i;
printf("%d\n", i); // 3
i = 1;
i = (i++);
printf("%d\n", i); // 2
volatile int u = 0;
u = u++ + ++u;
printf("%d\n", u); // 3
u = 1;
u = (u++);
printf("%d\n", u); // 2
register int v = 0;
v = v++ + ++v;
printf("%d\n", v); // 3
}
How does Visual Studio work, it takes another approach, it evaluates all pre-increments expressions in first pass, then uses variables values in the operations in second pass, assign from RHS to LHS in third pass, then at last pass it evaluates all the post-increment expressions in one pass.
So the equivalent in defined behavior C++ as Visual C++ understands:
#include<stdio.h>
int main(int argc, char ** argv)
{
int r;
int i = 0;
//i = i++ + ++i;
++i;
r = i + i;
i = r;
i++;
printf("%d\n", i); // 3
i = 1;
//i = (i++);
r = i;
i = r;
i++;
printf("%d\n", i); // 2
volatile int u = 0;
//u = u++ + ++u;
++u;
r = u + u;
u = r;
u++;
printf("%d\n", u); // 3
u = 1;
//u = (u++);
r = u;
u = r;
u++;
printf("%d\n", u); // 2
register int v = 0;
//v = v++ + ++v;
++v;
r = v + v;
v = r;
v++;
printf("%d\n", v); // 3
}
as Visual Studio documentation states at Precedence and Order of Evaluation:
Where several operators appear together, they have equal precedence and are evaluated according to their associativity. The operators in the table are described in the sections beginning with Postfix Operators.

Why do people write --i? [duplicate]

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Incrementing in C++ - When to use x++ or ++x?
I've seen things like i++ commonly used in, say, for loops. But when people use -- instead of ++, for some reason some tend to write --i as opposed to i--.
Last time I checked, they both work (at least in JavaScript). Can someone tell me if this is so in other C-family languages, and if it is, why do some people prefer --i to i--?
++i is faster than i++. Why? See the simple explication.
i++
i++ will increment the value of i, but return the pre-incremented value.
temp = i
i is incremented
temp is returned
Example:
i = 1;
j = i++;
(i is 2, j is 1)
++i
++i will increment the value of i, and then return the incremented value.
Example:
i = 1;
j = ++i;
(i is 2, j is 2)
This is simillar for --i and i--.
I don't believe the preference for prefix (++i) vs. postfix (i++) varies depending on whether it's an increment or a decrement.
As for why, I prefer prefix where possible because my native language is English, which has mostly a verb-before-object structure ("eat dinner", "drive car"), so "increment i" or "decrement i" is more natural for me than "i decrement". Of course, I'll happily use postfix if I'm using the result and I need the value prior to the increment in an expression (rather than the incremented value).
Historically the increment/decrement operator were motivated by stack management. When you push an element on the stack:
*(stackptr++) = value
when you pop:
value = *(--stackptr)
(these were converted to single ASM instructions)
So one gets used to increment-after and decrement-before.
You can see another idiomatic example in filling in direct and reverse order:
for (p=begin;p!=end;)
*(p++) = 42;
for (p=end;p!=begin;)
*(--p) = 42;
It's pretty much a preference thing, that only comes into play if you're doing the pre- or post-increment on types that are more complicated than primitives.
Pre-increment ("++i") returns the value of i after it has been incremented, and post-increment ("i++") returns the value before increment. So, if i was of a complicated type that had overloaded the pre-increment and post-increment operators, the pre-increment operator can just return the object, whereas the post-increment would have to return a copy of the object, which could well be less efficient if the object is substantial. And in most cases (for loop increments, etc.), the value is ignored anyways.
Like I said, most of the time, not a problem, and just a preference thing.
In C and C++,++ and -- operators have both prefix form: ++i and --i, and suffix form: i++ and i--. Former means evaluate-then-use and latter means use-then-evaluate. The difference is only relevant when either form is used as part of an expression. Otherwise it's a matter of preference or style (or lack thereof).
F.ex., in int i = 0; int n = ++i;, i is first incremented and then its value, now 1, is assigned to n. In n = i++ value of i, still 1, is assigned to n and is then incremented, with i == 2 now.
When used as a statement, that is: i++; ++i; both forms are equivalent.
The difference is pre-incrementing or post-incrementing (and likewise with decrementing).
Quoting the Wikipedia article on the topic that shows up as the second Google result for "c decrement":
int x;
int y;
// Increment operators
x = 1;
y = ++x; // x is now 2, y is also 2
y = x++; // x is now 3, y is 2
// Decrement operators
x = 3;
y = x--; // x is now 2, y is 3
y = --x; // x is now 1, y is also 1
So, it's not so much a matter of preference as a matter of difference of results.

Different result same expression in C, C++ and Java. WHY? [duplicate]

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Could anyone explain these undefined behaviors (i = i++ + ++i , i = i++, etc…)
int i = 10;
int n = i++*5*i;
Output
value of n = 550 (in Java)
value of n = 500 (in C and C++ )
Why not same result? Why different?
In Java, this is a well defined operation. It will:
increment i (it's now 11);
Produce the old value of i (10), because you used the postfix increment operator;
Multiply that by 5 (10*5 = 50);
Multiply that by the current value of i (50*11 = 550);
In both C and C++ this operation has undefined behaviour, so anything could happen. If anything could happen, that explains the results, whatever they are, and whether they make sense to you or not.
In C and C++, operations such as:
j = i++ + i;
are undefined, due to lack of sequence points. In Java, they are well defined. Therefore, you could see a difference in results.
Because what you are doing is undefined. The increment operator should not be placed in expressions of assignment with the variable being incremented.
i = i++; //undefined
n = i++ + i; // also undefined

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