Java What Happens When a Thread is Started Until It Starts Running - java

What is the sequence of events that occur between calling Thread.start and Thread.run being called? I ask because mostly out of curiosity, and because I can't seem to trace the native calls to find their implementation, but also to answer some questions I had about what I can expect after starting a Thread.
This question gives a good high level answer, but I'm looking for a more in-depth answer + links to source code is possible.

I'm not sure how every native method of a Java Thread is hooked up, but Java Threads use pthreads in the native layer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX_Threads
The Thread#start method in Java creates (and starts) a VMThread, which is backed by a pthread. The VMThread is backed by JNI and most of its calls wind up at vm/Thread.c (e.g. https://android.googlesource.com/platform/dalvik/+/eclair-release/vm/Thread.c).
E.g. the VMThread#create calls JNI method Dalvik_java_lang_VMThread_create and that calls the dvmCreateInterpThread function in vm/Thread.c
I hope this is a good start for you to start Googling around what exactly happens between Thread creation and its start.

Streets of Boston pointed me in the right direction, where I found https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/marshmallow-release/runtime/ . I will update this answer as soon as I get a chance to read through the code and grok it.

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Valid use case for (the deprecated) myThread.stop()?

The prevailing religion of Java today heavily forbids the use of the stop() instance method on a Thread[1] [2] [3]. It's marked as Deprecated in the official documentation, with a message that begins with:
This method is inherently unsafe. Stopping a thread with Thread.stop causes it to unlock all of the monitors that it has locked (as a natural consequence of the unchecked ThreadDeath exception propagating up the stack). If any of the objects previously protected by these monitors were in an inconsistent state, the damaged objects become visible to other threads, potentially resulting in arbitrary behavior. [...]
There is even a whole article supplied that goes into further detail. (Especially that ThreadDeath is silent when it gets to the top, and even if you guard against it, you can't guard against Thread.stop(Throwable t) anyway.)
In general, I agree with what that article is worried about, and with the answers to the related question on StackOverflow — in almost all the use cases in the world there is a much better way than stop(). But not all.
Here is a use case that I'm struggling to think of a better way for. I invite your suggestions.
Use case
I'm working with an interactive console running on top of Java, that allows the user run arbitrary Java statements and Python functions that call Java, in an interactive interpreted way. (See Jython console for screenshots.)
Now, the user can write arbitrary functions. Some of them might call Java methods that result in infinite loops that print a lot of output, almost saturating the system, so that it becomes painfully slow to respond.
When the user messes up like this, I need to give them a chance to kill the thread (using a button), and salvage the remainder of the work that they have produced in their session and stored in local variables.
If calling interrupt() on the thread fails, (e.g. if it never goes into waiting state while stuck in its infinite loop), then we are faced with two options that I can see: (1) kill the application outright or (2) use stop() on the bad thread, and let the user salvage whatever is left that hadn't been corrupted.
Yes I know that some objects may have been damaged and won't work properly. But we're talking about salvaging anything that may have been left in a valid state (which is probably pretty much everything, except one or two things).
Can anybody see any problems with this reasoning? And if this turns out to be a valid use-case, then does it mean the method shouldn't be deprecated :) ?
Calling Thread.stop() is a bad idea. End of story.
It may work in practice but you sacrifice most of the JVM's concurrency guarantees in the process. Your whole program is essentially running undefined behavior. It isn't simply the thread or the data in the thread that may become corrupted, but any part of the JVM that happens to be in a vulnerable state when the thread is killed.
It sounds like you're looking for someone to confirm that your use case somehow avoids the risks to the JVM. It doesn't, so you're not likely to get such a confirmation. If you don't see issues more power to you, but don't be surprised when it fails in inexplicable or dangerous ways.
As Peter Lawrey suggests you should be running this untrusted code in an isolated JVM, where the OS's process management can support killing resource-hogging processes. If you can't do that because you're passing around strange resources like open file descriptors that is your problem.

How can I abandon a LuaJ coroutine LuaThread?

I am experimenting with a game mechanic in which players can run scripts on in-game computers. Script execution will be resource limited at a gameplay level to some amount of instructions per tick.
The following proof-of-concept demonstrates a basic level of sandboxing and throttling of arbitrary user code. It successfully runs ~250 instructions of poorly crafted 'user input' and then discards the coroutine. Unfortunately, the Java process never terminates. A little investigation in shows that the LuaThread created by LuaJ for the coroutine is hanging around forever.
SandboxTest.java:
public static void main(String[] args) {
Globals globals = JsePlatform.debugGlobals();
LuaValue chunk = globals.loadfile("res/test.lua");
chunk.call();
}
res/test.lua:
function sandbox(fn)
-- read script and set the environment
f = loadfile(fn, "t")
debug.setupvalue(f, 1, {print = print})
-- create a coroutine and have it yield every 50 instructions
local co = coroutine.create(f)
debug.sethook(co, coroutine.yield, "", 50)
-- demonstrate stepped execution, 5 'ticks'
for i = 1, 5 do
print("tick")
coroutine.resume(co)
end
end
sandbox("res/badfile.lua")
res/badfile.lua:
while 1 do
print("", "badfile")
end
The docs suggest that a coroutine that is considered unresumable will be garbage collected and an OrphanedThread exception will be thrown, signalling the LuaThread to end - but this is never happening. My question is in two parts:
Am I doing something fundamentally wrong to cause this behaviour?
If not, how should I handle this situation? From the source it appears that if I can get a reference to the LuaThread in Java I may be able to forcibly abandon it by issuing an interrupt(). Is this a good idea?
Reference: Lua / Java / LuaJ - Handling or Interrupting Infinite Loops and Threads
EDIT: I have posted a bug report over at the LuaJ SourceForge. It discusses the underlying issue (threads not being garbage collected as in the Lua spec) and suggests some ways to work around it.
It seems to be a limitation of LuaJ. I submitted a ticket earlier this year on Sourceforge as I see you've also done. The LuaThread class doesn't store references to the Java threads it creates, so you can't interrupt() those threads without modifying the LuaJ core to expose them:
new Thread(this, "Coroutine-"+(++coroutine_count)).start();
It may be dangerous to interrupt those threads without adding appropriate cleanup code to LuaJ.
Documentation that you provided for OrphanedThread also tells us that scope is the defining condition:
"Error sublcass that indicates a lua thread that is no longer referenced has been detected. The java thread in which this is thrown should correspond to a LuaThread being used as a coroutine that could not possibly be resumed again because there are no more references to the LuaThread with which it is associated. Rather than locking up resources forever, this error is thrown, and should fall through all the way to the thread's Thread.run() method."
Your code example doesn't cause all LuaThread references to disappear, so you shouldn't expect an exception to be thrown. CoroutineLib documentation indicates: Coroutines that are yielded but never resumed to complete their execution may not be collected by the garbage collector, so an OutOfMemoryError should actually be expected from the code you listed on SourceForge, if I'm not mistaken. LuaThread:52 also specifies: Applications should not catch OrphanedThread, because it can break the thread safety of luaj., which is yet another obstacle.
There also seem to be differences between empty and non-empty while loops in Lua/J. IIRC, empty loops (while true do end) don't obey all coroutine hook/tick rules. *Because no actions occur in an empty loop, there's no opportunity for certain hooks to occur (I need to test this again so please correct me otherwise!).
A forked version of LuaJ with the functionality we're looking for is used in the ComputerCraft mod for Minecraft, though it's designed only for the mod and isn't open source.

Signals in Java

I was use C++ signals
sigaction
struct sigaction sigact;
and set all attributes to use signals
now I want to use it in Java what's the equivalent in java
to the include "signal.h"
I have two threads:
one run from the beginning of the program
and the other run at the signal Alarm
I was implement the functionality in C++ using Signals as shown and now I want to implement it using java
Edited to put my Goal:
actually my Goal to run the second Thread When the signal arrives from the first thread
Thus sounds like a typical "XY-Problem".
In plain Java you have no access to OS-signal. They are platform specific and Java strifes to be platform agnostic. Also: calling Java from a signal handler with JNI might be "fun" (as explained in Dwarf Fortress).
So you have to go back to the drawing board and think about what is the problem you want to solve and stop thinking about how to solve it with signals.
That said: if you insist on signals and are not afraid to use internal stuff which might change on a whim: Take a look at sun.misc.Signal.
EDIT Now the question made it clear, that the signalling takes place within one JVM. For this signals are definitely the wrong thing in Java.
So the simplest solution is to create and start the second thread directly from within the first thread. No signalling required.
The next best solution is to code a "rendezvous point" using Object.wait() in the second thread (using any object instance but the Thread itself) and Object.notify() or notifyAll() from the first thread. Searching for these terms in a Java tutorial will bring up enough examples.

Attaching third party thread to vm when using jni

I'm writing a Java program that uses a hardware driver written in c. This hardware driver starts a callback thread, and you can register callback functions to be called when stuff happens. How can I attach this thread to the jvm so that it can call the Java methods for these callbacks? I only have the thread id returned from the start_callbacks() function, returned as an int, but it is the pthread_t used in the call to pthread_create().
One way I found is to use pthread_once on the start of every callback function and attach the thread there. But then there is no way to detach it. I tried to use pthread_cleanup_push/pop, but they need to be called as a pair so that didn't work.
It seems to me that my only option to do this right is to attach and detach the thread at every callback call. Or rewrite the driver somewhat, which I really don't want to do.
Is there something I missed?
That's exactly what the JNI calls AttachCurrentThread() and DetachCurrentThread() are for.
The solution to you problem can be resolved with thread_local storage (C++ 11 and higher). This allows you to attach to an arbitrary thread, and then it will automatically detach when the thread exist (even when you didn't create the thread and have no control over it's life cycle).
A sample example of how to implement that in C++ can be found in my answer here:
https://stackoverflow.com/a/59934966/8367574

How to block child processes in java and restarting them

I have two questions:
I need to stop child processes through my main process and then start them again after something happened in my main process.have can I do that?
thanks alot.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean in the above post - I suspect they are different questions and the second is related to Glassfish, which I probably can't answer.
However, for the first I can if you mean threads rather than processes - Java has a wait/notify method pair that used in combination allow you to launch n child threads and wait for them all to complete before continuing in the main process. I think this is what you need, rather than stopping the child process from the main process - in concurrent programming this should never be done as you can't guarantee where you're up to in the child process. Have a look at: http://www.javamex.com/tutorials/synchronization_wait_notify_4.shtml
For your first part there are some classes in java.util.concurrent.locks that may help you. Have a look at LockSupport.
The answer to the first part of your question depends on whether the "processes" you are talking about are Process or Thread. But in both cases, there is no good way to cause an uncooperative process to "stop".
In the Process case, the OS may well provide support for suspending processes, but the Java Process APIs don't offer this functionality. So you'd need to resort to non-portable means (e.g. JNI/JNA) to implement this.
In the Thread case, there are methods called suspend and resume, but they should not be used because they are fundamentally unsafe. And the Javadoc says so very clearly!
So if you implement a suspend/resume mechanism, you need your processes to participate / cooperate. In the Thread case, you could implement your suspend / resume mechanism using the low-level synchronization primitives, or using something like the CyclicBarrier class.
Well it was a long time ago and I was really confused probably that forgot to look for the answers. Thanks but there actually a way to take care of the first part and the answer was Java Remote Method Invocation or simpli RMI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_remote_method_invocation
I am going to remove the second part of my question as I simply don't remember what I was on!

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