What is the difference between the 2 because both of them are based on the same methodology of publishers and subscribers who exchange messages between them via topics/subjects?
I recently came across this post and, as an employee of 60East Technologies, felt that it deserved a more complete response.
If you're asking in terms of "what role in an architecture do these serve", then you're right: both of these fall in the broad category of message-oriented middleware. They're both ways to coordinate and exchange data between processes based on the concept of messages as the units of data exchanged.
JMS is a standard API for Java, and one of the more popular ways of handling messaging. There are multiple implementations from multiple vendors. Since it's a standard, these are all similar in interface and have distinct implementations. Products that support JMS can also support wire standards such as AMQP to provide a level of interoperability for components that aren't written in Java.
AMPS (Advanced Message Processing System) is a bit less widely-known. It's a messaging product developed by 60East Technologies, Inc. Since it's a product rather than a standard, there's one implementation. It's a broker-based system, so in AMPS all message traffic passes through the broker. AMPS supports multiple programming languages (right now, there are clients available for Java, C#/.Net, Python, JavaScript, and C++). AMPS supports a variety of message payload formats (FIX, JSON, XML, Protocol Buffers, MessagePack, etc.). AMPS also supports a few different styles of message delivery: message queues (as JMS does), fan-out publish and subscribe, "query and subscribe" where an application gets current values for a set of records and then receives push updates when the records change, and historical replay ("bookmark subscribe") that exactly replays a stream of messages any number of times. AMPS also provides things like inline message transformation/enrichment, the ability to aggregate messages and project views (similar to the way an RDBMS can project a view of an underlying table).
AMPS was initially designed for very high-volume and low-latency applications (things like crossing engines/crossing networks in the financial sector). AMPS emphasizes performance, and takes a "whole-system" view of performance. That is, performance is considered from the point at which a producer starts to send a message to the point at which a consumer can act on the message, not just with regards to time in the broker.
To sum it up: AMPS is a product rather than a standard, supports multiple programming languages, provides a wide variety of capabilities and beyond message queues, and is designed for very high performance
Ryan
60East Technologies
JMS is a Java-based API for asynchronous messaging supporting both point-to-point and pub-sub semantics. It can be implemented by anyone. Apache ActiveMQ is probably the most popular and well-known JMS implementation, although there are numerous implementations.
AMPS is a proprietary messaging system developed by 60East Technologies which appears to only support pub-sub semantics.
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on my understandings,we use jms for exchanging the information between two or more systems,we can also use Rest Template for exchanging the information,but we use jms for exchanging the inforamtion,may i know what are the advantages we get using jms instead of using REST Template.
Asynchronous communications : An application need to notify another that an event has occurred with no need to wait for a response.
Reliability. Ensure once-and-only-once message delivery. With your DB approach you have to "reinvent the wheel", specially if you have several clients reading the messages.
Loose coupling. Not all systems can communicate using a database. So JMS is pretty good to be used in heterogeneous environments with decoupled systems that can communicate over system boundaries.
Here are couple of advantages JMS brings into the table.
JMS allows fire-and-forget messages with guaranteed delivery.
JMS is useful for asynchronous request-reply messaging. Use them to process long-running operations asynchronously.However HTTP based models are synchronous and lead to fail fast approach.
Publish/subscribe is another good technique for decoupling senders from many receivers. It's a flexible architecture, because subscribers can come and go as needed.
Integration of disparate systems in a heterogeneous environment. Any kind of disparate systems that cannot talk to each other are decent candidates for [message-based] integration applications.
Due to the above advantages, JMS is heavily used in Enterprise Integration.
I was googling around to search for what makes them different. I have used RabbitMQ and ZeroMQ for some of my projects. Knowing that JMS still exists and people use it I begin to wonder why? What motivates the usage of JMS are there any performance, architectural, or any advantages? I have no knowledge of JMS but if what I understand is true why would somebody bound himself to a java specific technology?
JMS and AMQP aren't really comparable. JMS is an API; AMQP is a protocol. It is possible to write a JMS implementation that uses AMQP. Indeed, people have.
Moreover, it is possible to write JMS implementations that use other protocols - and of course, numerous people have.
The goal of JMS is to put a uniform API over all these different messaging protocols. This makes life easier for programmers, who can learn one API, and then have a reasonable chance of using any message queue they come across.
In addition, the existence of a standard API allows JMS to interact with other standards. For example, in ejb, there is such a thing as a message-driven bean, which is an EJB which receives messages rather than method calls, and uses the JMS API to control the process.
I'm trying to wrap my brain around JMS and have been reading up on some very helpful sources and examples. I'm now trying to see the "big picture" here and put all the theory behind JMS into a practical context where real enterprise technologies are used.
So here we have four elements: (1) JMS - a Java API for MOM, (2) ActiveMQ - one of the many JMS implementations, (3) EIP - an intriguing and mysterious beast I am only beginning to understand, and finally, (4) Apache Camel, an open source implementation of that beast.
I am trying to now relate these components together to see JMS (and, in general, enterprise-class messaging) in action.
I guess the first thing I'm looking for is a simple and concise definition for what EIPs are. They seem to be a whole set of design patterns for how MOMs should behave, but since I'm already fuzzy on the concept of messaging to begin with, this is just a fuzzier definition being added on top of an already-fuzzy understanding of some pretty hardcore concepts.
Even if I don't "get" what EIPs are, I do "get" that frameworks like Camel, Mule and ServiceMix implement them and allow server-side components ("endpoints") to message each other efficiently.
Most important to this question is my understanding of how these four components relate to one another. I think understanding this will help me connect most of the dots; well, the important ones anyway.
So in the diagram above I labeled all 6 possible relationships and refer to them below:
JMS:ActiveMQ - I understand ActiveMQ to be an implementation of JMS, much like Hibernate is an implementation of JPA. Is this correct?
ActiveMQ:Camel - Camel has the ability to push messages to any JMS implementation, such as ActiveMQ. In this case ActiveMQ is a camel endpoint. Correct?
EIP:Camel - Camel is an implementation of EIPs. Understanding what EIPs are in the first place is also important to my understanding of this entire setup.
EIP:JMS - Although there may not be a direct connection between these two, it seems as though messaging is at the core of EIP, and JMS is Java's foundation for messaging. Is this a fair assessment?
I left relations between EIP:ActiveMQ and JMS:Camel in case there are any "big concepts" that I should be aware of between these systems.
Any help in putting a simple-to-understand definition to EIP and in understanding how all these components relate to each other is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
ActiveMQ is an implementation of a MOM. It provides a client-side implementation of the JMS API for use by JVM languages. JMS is just an API, but implementations are tied to whatever broker they talk to by a wire format, so you can't use the ActiveMQ JMS implementation to talk to WebsphereMQ, for example. There exist other APIs to talk to ActiveMQ from other language platforms - C/C++ via CMS, .Net via NMS. You can also talk to ActiveMQ via other "non-JMS-like" mechanisms, such as via the STOMP protocol which has client libraries in Ruby, Javascript and others.
Yes.
Yes and no. Camel uses the same "language" as EIPs, so by using Camel, you naturally pick up the EIPs. Having said that, knowing them lets you know what you are looking for in the API. I recommend Camel in Action to get a good understanding of the two, and refer to the EIP site (http://www.eaipatterns.com/) when you want to get a bit more info.
Again yes and no. There are a number of patterns implemented via messaging (JMS is only one flavour), but there are a large number of patterns that have a much broader application (e.g. Splitter, Aggregator). Have a look through the EIP site index to get a feel for this.
Camel can talk to other systems using it's JMS component, which uses any underlying messaging provider that supports that API (Websphere, Sonic, OpenMQ etc.). It can also talk over other messaging technologies, such as those that support the AMQP API.
Hope that helps.
This is not so much a question as it is a request for an opinion on these two technologies. A little background on this: I suggested the use of JMS on an enterprise project and the client came back talking about ebXML. I can honestly say I had no idea what this was, never read about it on the wire, and never hear anyone talking about it anywhere. So as a community, what do you guys think about one over the other?
JMS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Message_Service
ebXML
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebxml
I have the privilege of having worked on both the JMS RI at Sun and the ebXML at OASIS. I agree with previous statement that it is apples and oranges comparison....
JMS is a Java API. ebXML is a set of XML specifications and protocols. This is quite different
JMS defines an API for pub/sub messaging requiring a Java Message Service. ebXML is a set of specifications that do many things ranging from technical agreements on how to interact using a common set of capabilities (ebXML CPPA), registry and repository (ebXMl RegRep, and a messaging service (ebXML Messaging). The last spec may be the one that you were comparing JMS with.
[1] has a useful comparison of JMS and ebXML Messaging....
"Although the Java Messaging Service (JMS) offers a standard programming interface to message queuing products, the message formats and wire protocols used by these products are proprietary, requiring sender and recipient to use implementations from the same vendor or to use JMS-to-JMS bridges. One promise of the ebXML Messaging Service is to provide some of the benefits of message queuing products, while offering users a choice of ebMS implementations, provided by different vendors, including open source implementations."
[1] The ebXML Messaging Service, By Pim van der Eijk, March 18, 2003
http://www.xml.com/lpt/a/1175
Seems like apples and oranges to me, but from the Wikipedia article it wasn't entirely clear what implementations had to provide.
I'd have to be convinced to not use an EE standard like JMS if it suits the messaging needs you actually have.
I want to use ActiveMQ as a message broker communicating between a C++ component and a Java component in two process. Eg. C++ component is the publisher and the Java component is the subscriber(there maybe multiple subscribers). I look at ActiveMQ website and it mentions the tool OpenWire and ActiveMQ-CPP. However, all the examples on the websites are using the same language for both producer and consumer.
My questions are:
1.Can ActiveMQ work for producer/consumer in different languages?
2.In different processes? How?
OpenWire is a protocol and hence can theoretically be implemented anywhere, but that doesn't mean full implementations exist for every language. The fine print of the C++ client says:
"As of version 2.0, ActiveMQ-CPP supports the OpenWire v2 protocol, with a few exceptions.
ObjectMessage - We cannot reconstruct the object(s) contained in an ObjectMessage in C++, so if your application is subscribed to a queue or topic that has an ObjectMessage sent to it, you will receive the message but will not be able to extract an Object from it."
So if you want to send data across processes, you write your C++ and Java components to use the API (making sure not to use ObjectMessage types if you're using ActiveMQ-CPP). Then run the ActiveMQ server... tell your programs to connect to it, and it should work.
But if you're really just trying to do interprocess communication when you control both clients, this could be a bit heavy-handed. You might be interested in the responses to What is the best approach for IPC between Java and C++? and Good alternative to shared memory IPC for Java/C++ apps on Linux
Directly from ActiveMQ's front page :
Supports a variety of Cross Language Clients and Protocols from Java, C, C++, C#, Ruby, Perl, Python, PHP
* OpenWire for high performance clients in Java, C, C++, C#
* Stomp support so that clients can be written easily in C, Ruby, Perl,
Python, PHP, ActionScript/Flash, Smalltalk to talk to ActiveMQ as well
as any other popular Message Broker
We have tested it with PHP (using Stomp) and Java (using OpenWire).
Regarding processes : the various producers and consumers can of course be in totally different processes, communicating over e.g TCP or SSL.