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I started to play arround with windowbuilder and I have already built a few basic GUI programs. However, I was wondering if I'm doing myself a disservice by learning swing this way instead of building everything myself, without using any plugins? I do have a good understanding of what goes into building the whole GUI, but still, what's your opinion on the matter?
I usually give the same example. You can't teach someone to use a calculator before teaching him how to sum. I think it's important for you to get familiarized with most of the swing components and try to grasp the basics about them so you can code them easily.
WindowBuilder is very helpful for complex designs and components, but I think you should first know the fundamentals before switching to WindowBuilder. Many people would disagree with me because that extension makes life a lot easier but it's really important to know the basics in case someday you want to work somewhere without WindowBuilder or NetBeans, or even if you want to understand the code that the program is making for you.
So, to sum up: You can install WindowBuilder and use it to learn but keep in mind you may not get some VERY useful knowledge with this method. Also, analyze the code thoroughly to understand it and try not to over-use the tool.
I would recommend writing initially with your hands. After all, WindowBuilder and similar tools are designed to speed up development, use them if you understand what is inside. All the best!
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Im quite good with writing text based programs using Java and ill like to proceed to writing GUI programs and animations ive checked several youtube playlists and they dont seem do helpful so i would appreciate any tips on where to start.
For desktop applications, You should start with Java Swing.
Swing API is a set of extensible GUI Components to ease the
developer's life to create JAVA based Front End/GUI Applications.
There are some good tutorials, I would suggest the following:
JavaTPoint and TutorialsPoint
After completing swing, you can move on to JavaFX.
JavaFX is a set of graphics and media packages that enables developers
to design, create, test, debug, and deploy rich client applications
that operate consistently across diverse platforms.
For that, you may follow to begin with
code.makery
Sounds as a great question, but not self explanatory. Before making assumptions just ask your self -
Do I feel myself as Web developer or a Desktop(Core) developer?
From a prospective of Desktop developer - take a look at Swing - it allows to make GUI forms and etc. If you decide to learn web, then take a look at Vaadin (which is made on top of GWT, and easier to dive in)..
Both of them have simlar syntax, so it would be always easier re-qualify...
UPDATE: While you still decide where to go, see this humble example of Vaadin Application
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I would like start to build my own framwork to make visual novel type games. I am fairly confident in using Java.
Please tell me if it is a good choice to use it to for that kinda development. I want to use fullHD images, hq animation to display and I'm not sure if java is a good choice or not, but in the other hand i would like my games to run on any platform.
If is not the good choice for my requierments please tell me what programming language should I use.
Thanks for taking your time to help sincerely and sorry for my english.
Well, I think you can do this with most 3rd generation languages. For this type of game you could do several things depending on how much control you want. If you want to render quads (2d planes with images on them) and texts, and be able to transform them and apply your own shader programs for visual effects take a look at slick utils and the light weight java game library (LWJGL), an openGL implementation.
just using java native code will limit you significantly, as well as just using native classes in other languages.
it not really the language you should search for but more the frameworks. I worked with LWJGL and it was quite hard to learn. but in my opinion easier to learn than serious frameworks within a language such as c or c++
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I am a C# .NET developer and I always use Visual Studio to create my applications. Now I am studying Java with the netbeans IDE and I have no clue of how to create a Form Application?
I have used Jform etc. But this is just annoying. I was trying for 3 hours just to relocate a button while resizing my window.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make this easier?
Unfortunately, IMHO, creating GUI applications in Swing is a pain, especially coming from .NET.
Whenever I need to create Swing apps I find it easier to just hand code it. Although it involves much more work than in .NET, and also has a pretty steep learning curve, I find I have more control over my code that way.
BTW, once you get the hang of how things work in Swing, hand coding is pretty manageable.
Good Luck!
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I am new to GWT. I have a question. Which way is better to learn/use GWT programming. Either to learn using GWT by writing code for creating user interface OR through GWT Designer? I am also aking this question in the context of good programming practices & industry requirements.
I agree that code is much better. Plus later on when you want to do more fine tuning of your UI, exact position up to the pixel level for example, I have found that the Designer is not very easy for aligning widgets. You will need to get down to the code level anyway to do so.
Another benefit like it was already mentioned is you will get a better understanding of what is going on.
In my opinion it's better to learn to code it from scratch. That way you get a much better understanding of what the underlying code does. Because you'll also have to consider supporting the GUI you develop as well. And if you use a designer, while it's a lot quicker, it'll add it's own code to it, and it may not be pure GWT code.
So in my opinion, code it by hand, sure it'll take longer, but you'll understand it better, and be able to support it. And it'll be another great skill to your bow.
I use a mixed solution. Designer for main blocks and code for details...
I would suggest to start with coding rather than the designer. From a learning point of view, coding gives more information regarding how you can use and extend functionality.
Client side scripting involves good styling, alignment which you will understand once you work via the code and scripts.
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Our team is now working on a big Swing application. Our job basically focuses on writing extensions to the existing framework. A typical job would be adding a new panel/ or adding a new tab with some extra functionalities that suit our need.
It seems FEST can help a lot in terms of unit-test our code. I am going to try it out this week. But the question here is if there is a way to do automated functional testing on the whole application. In another word, we do not only need to test our code but also the framework. After all, UAT is the most important part.
I am currently considering decompiling the jar files we got into source code then we can identify the components and then use FEST.
So, before I get started to give this approach a shot, I think I just ask for ideas and inspirations here. There must be people who have done similar things before. Would be nice if I could learn from the veterans who fought against this before .
Thanks,
In my view, Functional tests and unit tests are not well serviced by the same framework. For functional testing, I would recommend you look at QFTest, which understands Swing components, so you get a more stable test than a traditional click-and-keyboard playback mechanism, while still being at the functional level.
You could consider ReTest, which is a functional Swing test tool that comes with an interesting approach to regression testing and is packed with AI-based monkey testing.
It is going to be partly open source as well.
Disclaimer: I am the founder of the company creating ReTest.